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                                             May     31, 2010
                                             October 27, 2013

                                                             GORGIAS
Reading throught the dialog "Gorgias",
trying to grasp the taxonomy that Plato
is working up (without whining too
much about all the absurd leaps)...


   Rhetoric is not an art,
   and neither is cookery?                Actually: Plato's "art" involves
                                          understanding (and purpose?) as
   Because art is useless,                opposed to mere experience.
   and the other are practical?
                                                             PLATONIC_ART

  "Cookery" is an experience or 
   routine, and not an art?              

  (a) they didn't have very good cooks.
  (b) is this a craft/art distinction, where art
      is concerned with the new, or the deep?      Actually, this isn't
                                                   *such* a terrible
                                                   example: his point
       The equation of rhetoric with               is that even quite
       flattery is ridiculous on it's              junky food can have
       face: flattery is but one of                a superficial appeal.
       the tools of persuasion, there
       are others.                                     The idea that food
                                                       can never rise above
                                                       that is what's crazy.




Okay, so now we're starting
from bodies and souls....
                                               PLATONIC_EXERCISE
 There is "a good condition" for each.

 And an appearence/reality distinction
 mere "pleasure" vs "higher interests"



                     soul                          body
         |----------------------------|---------------------------|
         |             .              |            .              |
         |             .  justice     |            . medicine     |
         |             .              |            .              |
     art |  politics   . . . . . . . .|     ?      .. . . . . . . |
 (truth) |             .              |            .              |
         |             .  legislative |            . gymnastics   |
         |             .              |            .              |
         |----------------------------|---------------------------|




                     soul                        body
         |----------------------------|---------------------------|
         |             .              |            .              |
         |             .  rhetoric    |            . cookery      |
         |             .              |            .              |
flattery |  politics   . . . . . . . .|     ?      .. . . . . . . |
 (lies)  |             .              |            .              |
         |             .  sophistry   |            . "tiring" (?) |
         |             .              |            .              |
         |----------------------------|---------------------------|



                 I wonder what goes in the
                 gaps, but maybe you were
                 expected to just know...

                    love and sex?




                                                      PARALLEL_CHILDREN

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