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ON_DEFENSIBLE_BORDERS

                                       August 14-17, 2014

                                                     NOT_PRO_ISRAEL

One of the excuses offered by Israel's
government for it's continued occupation of
territories outside it's pre-1967 borders          And it has nothing
is that this is necessary for the nation's         to do with "lebenshraum",
security because the original borders were         so don't go making any
not "defensible".                                  snide remarks about it.

There are some objections to this on
factual grounds, which I think deserve
to be more widely read:


"Israelis Differ on ‘Defensible Borders’"
by Robert Mackey, May 27, 2011
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/27/isrealis-differ-on-defensible-borders/

  "The ongoing dispute about whether or not it is
  permissible for supporters of Israel to even refer to
  the country’s 1967 borders as one element in future
  negotiations with the Palestinians obscures the fact
  that some Israelis disagree strongly with Prime Minister
  Benjamin Netanyahu’s view that a country with those
  frontiers would be 'indefensible.' "


https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=224136450932724
"Netanyahu is bad for Israel", May 22, 2011

  "Netanyahu’s claim regarding the non-defensible 1967
  borders was true prior to 1967, it is nothing but
  hogwash today. In the 1960’s when Israel was a young
  state without the military might that it has today an
  argument could be made that there was in fact an
  existential threat to Israel from its neighbors who
  refused to recognize Israel, negotiate or make
  peace. The narrow neck of Israel 14 miles wide between
  Tulkarm and Netanya was a point where the country could
  have been cut in half. There was a formidable Jordanian
  army with an air force and artillery. The Jordanians put
  their army under the command of the UAR of Egypt and
  Syria in 1967."




"Former Israeli diplomats in Washington: 1967 borders are defensible"
by Natasha Mozgovaya, Jul. 25, 2011, Haaretz
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/former-israeli-diplomats-in-washington-1967-borders-are-defensible-1.375235

  "The former ambassadors and decorated soldiers met with
  U.S. National Security Council in Washington with an
  appraisal of Israel's security needs significantly
  different from the prime minister's."

  "A group of former Israeli army officials and diplomats
  visited Washington Monday, claiming that a peace agreement
  with the Palestinians is urgent in spite of, and because
  of, regional turmoil, and that contrary to what Prime
  Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claims, the 1967 borders are,
  in fact, defensible."







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