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                                              December 02, 2002
                                      Rev:    July     16, 2006
                                      Rev:    January  19, 2007

Dworkin/Mackinnon were instantly
transformed from "serious
thinkers" to "radical extremists"                      CORRECT
outside the mainstream of feminism
the moment it was clear that they
were a political liability.

And yet there are still some people carrying the
torch for a more sexually repressed feminism...

For example, Robert Jensen, the author of:

   "You are what you eat: The pervasive porn industry
   and what it says about you and your desires"

   [ref]
                                       
     My summary: Some guys like really         
     silly porn, so masculinity is fucked.     
     Feel guity enough and ye shall be         
     saved.  What, me puritanical?             
                                               
                                               
                                              
                                      
One of the things that occurred to me is that he only gets to
talk to people who reinforce his point of view, e.g. women
who think porn is just oh-so-icky:

   "Many of the people in the audience, particularly the
   women, tell me that they find it difficult to hear about
   these things, even when the acts are described with the
   kind of clinical detachment I try to maintain. One woman
   approached me after a lecture and said, 'What you said
   was important, but I wish I hadn't been here. I wish I
   didn't know what you told us. I wish I could forget it." "


If you're wondering the sort of things he was saying
to these women, interestingly enough he does not
talk about anything like heavy sado-masochism, he
describes porn like this:

    "[...]  then he enters her vaginally from behind
    before he asks, 'Do you want me to fuck you in the
    ass?' She answers in the affirmative; 'Stick it in
    my ass,' she says. "

And to him, this is an example of the:

   " [...] pornographic mindset, in which male pleasure
   defines sex and female pleasure is a derivate of
   male pleasure. In pornography, women just happen to
   love exactly what men love to do to them, "

That's it: it's *really* terrible that
men like to fantisize about women who       This is an odd one, because
want to do the same things that they        traditionally the feminist
want to do.                                 complaint has been about
                                            rape fantasies...
   What would be better?
                                                        (There the defense
   Men are supposed to fantasize                        is that there's a
   about forcing women to have                          difference between
   sex, because women are far too                       fantasy and reality,
   pure and innocent to want to                         and the one need not
   do anything like that?                               lead to the other.)

   Men are supposed to sacrifice
   themselves to women's
   pleasure, and ask for nothing
   more?

   More likely: no one is supposed to want to
   do anything that Jensen wouldn't want to do.

             Don't you know you're
             supposed to be Normal?


But there really are people who
like receiving anal sex, and some
of them are even women; however if
there are any in the audience at
his talks it's unlikely that
they're going to feel confortable            NORMAL_PERVERSION
standing up saying "But I *like*
being fucked up the ass sometimes."

He wonders why people get so upset
with his line -- even going as far
as to label him "puritanical", or           The thing that's really
"fascist", imagine that -- but I            strange about it is that the
think that this is one of the main          Jensen's of the world seem to
reasons.                                    have no understanding of this
                                            point.
There are a lot of people like to
think of themselves as being                         They hear the
discretely private about their risque                criticism, and yet
activities, but when someone like this               don't hear it.
comes along and implicitly attacks
them (casually assuming that they
don't exist!); all of a sudden they
realize that they're not just being          "There are many points in the
discrete: they're in the closet.             pornography debate on which
                                             reasonable people can
                                             disagree. Legal strategies
    One of the movies he                     raise important issues about
    talks about sounds                       freedom and responsibility,
    pretty dorky (by my                      and definitive connections
    standards): cheerleaders                 between media consumption and
    rubbing their faces in                   human behavior are always
    semen on their pom-poms.                 difficult to establish. More
                                             generally, sexuality is a
    The standard Humorless                   complex phenomenon in which
    Feminist looks at these                  wide human variation makes
    fantasies of degradation                 universal claims suspect."
    and dismisses the genre
    as a symbolic assault on                 Well duh.
    women --
                                             But isn't that what you're doing?
       But if you'll peruse                  How can you *miss* that
       some personal ads,                    this is what you're doing?
       you may notice that
       there's actually a                    "I can be fairly certain
       shortage of tops...                   that what little I have
                                             written here so far will
       There are large                       cause some readers to
       numbers of people --                  condemn me as a sexual
       male and female --                    fascist or a prude."
       who *like* playing at
       being "degraded".                     Don't you dare talk mean to me!
                                             And you're not allowed to call
          To make this sort                  me a fascist, because I used
          of criticism, you                  that word already.
          have to deny that
          their desires are                  "I had about 25 hours of
          valid.                             tape to watch. I treated
                                             the work as any other
          There's something                  scholarly project."
          wrong with them --
          a reflection of a                  He's an expert on pornography
          twisted world we                   after watching a dozen porn
          must work to                       movies?  This is like
          untangle.                          dismissing Western poetry
                                             after skimming some Rod McKuen.
   (But aren't     ORIENTAL_TWIST
   "universal                                "I found myself struggling to
    claims                                   understand the sexual arousal
    suspect"?)                               I felt while watching, and it
                                             took me some time to deal
                                             emotionally with the
                   'Brutality?" you          brutality of the material and
                   might think he was        my sexual reaction to it."
                   watching some of                               
                   the hardcore S&M              Repeat after me:         
                   that might be a               "get over yourself".     
                   problem case, but             No one cares how you     
                   it doesn't seem so            masturbate.              
                   from his                                               
                   descriptions.                                         
                                             "I was alternately aroused
                                             and bored by the tapes --
                                             predictable given how
                                             intensely sexual, and at the
                                             same time rigidly formatted,
                                             the genre is."
                                                                  
                                                Real men know how      
                                                to fast forward.       
      Someone needs to tie                                             
      this man down and                                               
      make him listen to a                   (He seems to "struggle" a lot.
      lot of Susie Bright.                   The word occurs 10 times
                                             throughout the article.)
        Or at least,
        Wendy McElroy


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