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To: Jake <jake@acutex.net>, <mozilla-webtools@mozilla.org> From: Jon Stevens <jon@latchkey.com> Subject: Re: IssueZilla Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:57:11 -0800 on 2/6/01 11:21 AM, "Jake" <jake@acutex.net> wrote: > It's probably something where somebody took the bugzilla source and made a > bunch of modifications then changed the name... all the while never > submitting the changes back to the original bugzilla for all to benefit > from. > > I know nothing about IssueZilla but do know that this has been done at other > sites (Red Hat, for example). Hello, IssueZilla is a version of Bugzilla that has been *heavily* modified to work within CollabNet's Sourcecast system. The changes to Bugzilla to make it work within our system are quite specific to our system and therefore are probably not of use to the general population of Bugzilla. The full source code to IssueZilla is available here: @see <http://sandbox.tigris.org/source/browse/sandbox/issuezilla/> :-) The point being that we are not "somebody" who is just taking the source code and stealing it for our own benefit and not giving back to the community. You may have missed that IssueZilla is being used on the recently deployed Mozdev.org site as well. In other words, we (CollabNet) love the Mozilla community and we are strongly founded on Open Source principles... :-) Introduction Time: I know that Brian B. has posted here before, but I just wanted to introduce myself and tell you about a project that I am working on for CollabNet... I'm a member of the Apache Software Foundation and work primarily within the Java side of the projects within the ASF. I have been working on Open Source in one way or another for the last 6 or 7 years. I also manage several large Java OSS projects under the ASF and also helped convince Sun to give the Jakarta project its Servlet Engine, Tomcat. I am also currently working on a "competitor" to Bugzilla that happens to be based on Java technologies instead of Perl because the rest of our system is also done on Java and we need closer integration within our system as well as a more template driven solution that can do things like support multiple OS's easily as well as multiple database backends transparently. @see <http://scarab.tigris.org/> Another goal of Scarab is to have a complete MVC separation implemented using the Pull model. The point being that we want to allow designers to be able to modify not only the look and feel of the site but also the flow of the site without having to touch the backend code. This is something that is currently very hard coded within Bugzilla and would take a complete rewrite to achieve... @see <http://java.apache.org/turbine/pullmodel.html> Nothing wrong with having different implementations of the same thing in different languages. :-) I'm very interested in working with the Bugzilla project and really do not have any urges to re-implement the things that I see you guys doing well. As soon as we are a bit further along with Scarab, I'm sure that you will hear a lot from me with regards to things like the XML export from Bugzilla. :-) :-) Since I'm the lead developer on Scarab, feel free to ask me any questions. Up until now, I have just been a lurker on this list and will probably remain so in order to stay out of everyone's hair... :-) thanks, -jon stevens jon@collab.net === To: mozilla-webtools@mozilla.org From: "Jake" <jake@acutex.net> Subject: Re: IssueZilla Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:13:34 -0500 "Jon Stevens" <jon@latchkey.com> > Another goal of Scarab is to have a complete MVC > separation implemented using the Pull model. The point > being that we want to allow designers to be able to modify > not only the look and feel of the site but also the flow > of the site without having to touch the backend code. This > is something that is currently very hard coded within > Bugzilla and would take a complete rewrite to achieve... 'Tis true... one of the reasons for the upcoming 3.0 rewrite. http://www.hixie.ch/scripts/bugzilla/ === To: <mozilla-webtools@mozilla.org> From: Brian Behlendorf <brian@collab.net> Subject: Re: IssueZilla Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:54:22 -0800 (PST) Actually, I posted here awhile ago about our patches; we've not taken the time to make each of our changes atomic and lobby for them to be included, because a) most of them are oriented towards integrating into the rest of the Tigris suite (www.tigris.org), thus are not generically useful for all Bugzilla installations, and b) it seemed like people were not interested in pushing the 2.x branch all that much further. The full source code is available - check out the "sandbox" module from CVSROOT :pserver:guest@cvs.tigris.org:/cvs, password "guest". The docs are skimpy, we admit, but it's there. To be honest, I wouldn't advocate that people try to use it outside of the rest of the Tigris suite. We've not put the work in to make it generically useful outside of that environment - sorry. We would welcome any patches along these lines, of course. The name comes from the fact that we wanted to use it for more than just bugs, but for all sorts of issues. On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Jake wrote: > It's probably something where somebody took the bugzilla source and made a > bunch of modifications then changed the name... all the while never > submitting the changes back to the original bugzilla for all to benefit > from. > > I know nothing about IssueZilla but do know that this has been done at other > sites (Red Hat, for example). Red Hat uses their own fork of Bugzilla, I think. === To: "'Barry Katz'" <bskatz@attglobal.net>, <mozilla-webtools@mozilla.org> From: "Mike Zhang" <mike.zhang@returnpath.net> Subject: RE: IssueZilla Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:22:25 -0500 Try this: http://www.possenet.org/issues/ ===