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From: "Robert Chalmers" <robert@chalmers.com.au>
Subject: Webadverts help needed. Runs, but click through not working?
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I have installed the latest version (2.13) of Webadverts from
##    latest version is available from    ##
##        http://awsd.com/scripts/        ##

and although it displays the banner fine, it wont follow the click on the
banner to go to the appropriate web site.

I have a test page here, www.chalmers.com.au/bannertest.html

As you see if you visit. Clicking on the Banner Image, for 'Arts And Minds'
should take you to the web site. But all it does is bring up the usual error
page.

If anyone has any experience of this script, I'd love to hear from you
please.

ta
Bob

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From: Purl Gurl <no-email@purlgurl.net>
Subject: Re: Webadverts help needed. Runs, but click through not working?
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Robert Chalmers wrote:
: 
: I have installed the latest version (2.13) of Webadverts from
: ##    latest version is available from    ##
: ##        ://awsd.com/scripts/        ##
: 
: and although it displays the banner fine, it wont follow the click on the
: banner to go to the appropriate web site.
: 
: I have a test page here, www.chalmers.com.au/bannertest.html

(snipped)

Hi ya Robert, how's life on the other end of our earth?

Wish I could tell you some good news, but my bad news
is good news. 

I tested this for you. However, lets be sure I did
this correctly. You might ask "why?" I will tell
you your page worked perfectly. Lets compare notes
though just to be sure I did this right.

My first stop was at this site:

http://www.chalmers.com.au/bannertest.html

What I observed is a small graphic of a green acorn.
It's URL link is this:

http://www.chalmers.com.au/webadverts/ads_admin.pl

Clicking upon your acorn picture, opened a new window
and I ended up here:

http://www.chalmers.com.au/webadverts/ads_admin.pl

So far, all is well. What I observed at this page
above is an administrative site with user name
and password text boxes, white background with
this logo at top:

Little Acorn Banner Exchange Administrative Access

So, what can I say? Seems good news. At least it appears
to be working for me. Maybe you did some work on this
after making your post?

I've downloaded a copy of your scripts but have not
opened them to look. I will hang onto them for a few
days just in case. Let me know if you need more tests
on your page, just drop a note here in this group.

Wishing you pleasant Summer while we enjoy Winter.

Say, you guys ever get your sink water to swirl
in the right direction while draining??

=)

Let me know if I can help in some form or fashion.

Purl Gurl
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From: "Robert Chalmers" <robert@chalmers.com.au>
Subject: Re: Webadverts help needed. Runs, but click through not working?
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Hi there Purl Gurl,

thanks for trying the link. Now, if you could click on the banner itslef -
it may take a moment to load is all - it's 468x60 in size, and should come
up right next to the little acorn. On the right hand side.

The Acorn works :-), the Banner to the right of it doesn't. and I can't
figure why. It's driving me nuts.
The banner actually loads, but clicking on the banner produces only the
error page... no jump to the banners url/site.

The weather here is great. I'm right by the beach - it's 30+ Celcius outside
right now, and I'm asking myself why I'm doing this. :-)

Yup, I've done that water swirling experiment - even our cyclones go the
other way - neat huh :-)

Thanks for your help, I appreciate it.

cheers
Robert

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"Purl Gurl" <no-email@purlgurl.net> wrote in message
news:3885626A.541AB1C9@purlgurl.net...
: Robert Chalmers wrote:
: :
: : I have installed the latest version (2.13) of Webadverts from
: : ##    latest version is available from    ##
: : ##        ://awsd.com/scripts/        ##
: :
: : and although it displays the banner fine, it wont follow the click on
the
: : banner to go to the appropriate web site.
: :
: : I have a test page here, www.chalmers.com.au/bannertest.html
:
: (snipped)
:
: Hi ya Robert, how's life on the other end of our earth?
:
: Wish I could tell you some good news, but my bad news
: is good news.
:
: I tested this for you. However, lets be sure I did
: this correctly. You might ask "why?" I will tell
: you your page worked perfectly. Lets compare notes
: though just to be sure I did this right.
:
: My first stop was at this site:
:
: http://www.chalmers.com.au/bannertest.html
:
: What I observed is a small graphic of a green acorn.
: It's URL link is this:
:
: http://www.chalmers.com.au/webadverts/ads_admin.pl
:
: Clicking upon your acorn picture, opened a new window
: and I ended up here:
:
: http://www.chalmers.com.au/webadverts/ads_admin.pl
:
: So far, all is well. What I observed at this page
: above is an administrative site with user name
: and password text boxes, white background with
: this logo at top:
:
: Little Acorn Banner Exchange Administrative Access
:
: So, what can I say? Seems good news. At least it appears
: to be working for me. Maybe you did some work on this
: after making your post?
:
: I've downloaded a copy of your scripts but have not
: opened them to look. I will hang onto them for a few
: days just in case. Let me know if you need more tests
: on your page, just drop a note here in this group.
:
: Wishing you pleasant Summer while we enjoy Winter.
:
: Say, you guys ever get your sink water to swirl
: in the right direction while draining??
:
: =)
:
: Let me know if I can help in some form or fashion.
:
: Purl Gurl
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From: Purl Gurl <no-email@purlgurl.net>
Subject: Re: Webadverts help needed. Runs, but click through not working?
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Robert Chalmers wrote:
: 
: I have installed the latest version (2.13) of Webadverts from

Ok Robert.. some more feedback. I looked at your
document source. You are running Java. * bites tongue *

I turned on Java which I always keep turned off as
most internet users do these days for security and
safety. With Java turned on, yes, an error page.

I noted your graphic for the click through does not
load, just a 'broken picture icon'. I know little about
Java and have no desire to learn. So, a guess for you.
This broken picture, what would normally be a long
banner ad with your acorn just to the right, this 
picture is requirement for you click through to work.
Without it loading, * guessing * your java is messing
up and not providing a correct URL address....

quick note: with a broken picture, I get your error message.

oh brother.. Robert, I tried something different this
time during the course of typing this note. I went back
to your site, went to the URL where your picture is
stored and forced it load. Returned to your opening
page, your banner loaded ok, I clicked on it and
received a message:

Sorry, but what you are looking for doesn't appear to be here ...

Standard file not found type of message. Off hand, I would say
your banner click through is working ok but, your redirect page,
your second page is missing, or your URL click address is getting 
messed up during processing.

From a PERL point of view, I did note your click address looks
like this:

http://www.chalmers.com.au/webadverts/ads.pl?member=rbs;banner=NonSSI;page=809

All looks pretty standard save for semi-colon delimiters ; Most often,
but not always, an ampersand & is used there. Still, almost any symbol
can be used if your PERL script is expecting it, such as ; in this case.

What I would suggest, which may not be worth anything, is to check
your second page (click page) address, be sure it matches up with
what your script is using for an output. Otherwords, your script
writes the exact same URL as the URL for your click through page.

If you are skilled in PERL, a last resort would be to generate your
opening page with your cgi script and eliminate all Java. This would
take some work however. Just don't know cuz these people wouldn't
offer this script if it didn't work right.. 

I will open up this script tomorrow and have a look, maybe something
is there which I will spot. I'll post if I find anything.

In closing Robert, there is one comment I would make, something
for you to think about and clearly demonstrated tonight, or today
for you. If a visitor does not have Java turned on, which is very
common these days, your page is going to fail, consistently. Java
is an absolute requirement for your page to work. Trying to be
polite here, any program, any Java which does not make allowances
for a non-java enabled browser, is a poorly planned program and
not a good program to use. It turns away visitors right and left.

Think on this.

Best wishes Robert,

Purl Gurl
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From: "Robert Chalmers" <robert@chalmers.com.au>
Subject: Re: Webadverts help needed. Runs, but click through not working?
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: : I have installed the latest version (2.13) of Webadverts from
:

Hi there again,
thanks.  It's a real exercise in frustration, believe me. I struggled with
this code a year or so ago, and got no where. My only option is to sit down
and pull the Perl code apart to see what makes it work.


: I will open up this script tomorrow and have a look, maybe something
: is there which I will spot. I'll post if I find anything.

I'd certainly appreciate any clues you have to it's working. The author
remains silent on the subject.

:
: Best wishes Robert,
:
: Purl Gurl


Likewise Purl Girl..
Thanks for taking the time.

Robert
..

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From: brian@smithrenaud.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: Webadverts help needed. Runs, but click through not working?
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In article <3885ED1A.430B7E65@purlgurl.net>, Purl Gurl <no-email@purlgurl.net> wrote:

:Purl Gurl wrote:

:There is a need to qualify this. What I will provide
:to you will be a real program, written from scratch
:and will not be a plug n play, copy and paste PERL 5
:module. This program will be written in PERL 4 to
:guarantee it will run on your server where PERL 5
:stands a good chance to fail.

stop spreading this lie.   if you don't know Perl 5, just
say so.  perl4 may not even be available considering it's
widely know security problems and dinosaur status.

i think Perl 5 doesn't work for *you* because you can't
make a working program.  quit misleading others though.

at the very least, a good contractor would simply ask 
which version of Perl is being used.  this appears not
to be you however.

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From: Purl Gurl <no-email@purlgurl.net>
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Robert Chalmers wrote:
 
: I have installed the latest version (2.13) of Webadverts from

* screams *

What a difficult script Robert! I have been studying
this monster for a couple of hours. It does lots of
really neat things and, has lots of neat options.

Anyhow, you have a very long piece of email from
me Robert. Let me know here by posting if you do not
receive it, ok?? Otherwise, talk to you in email!!

You be optimistic ok? This bug is the size of Godzilla
and.. hmmm... I like Godzilla, can't kill her off..

Ok.. Ok... this bug is the size of OJ Simpson and
we will squash it!

Purl Gurl
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From: mbadolato@cybernox.com (Mark Badolato)
Subject: Re: Webadverts help needed. Runs, but click through not working?
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no-email@purlgurl.net (Purl Gurl) wrote in
<3886575D.4E3C8652@purlgurl.net>: 

:Robert Chalmers wrote:
: 
:: I have installed the latest version (2.13) of Webadverts from
:
:* screams *
:
:What a difficult script Robert! I have been studying
:this monster for a couple of hours. It does lots of
:really neat things and, has lots of neat options.


Oh big suprise YOU can't get WebAdverts running.  WebAdverts takes no 
more than 3 minutes to install.  You set a couple of paths, upload the 
files, and set the permissions.  Big deal.

What's the matter?  Can't get something to run under Perl 5 again?  
It's not Perl 5 that has the problems, it's you that does.

--mark



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