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From: Mark Coletti <mcoletti@lychnobite.org>
Subject: Trying to send e-mail through an SMTP server
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:52:40 GMT

I see plenty of documentation regarding *getting* e-mail from a POP/IMAP
server, but I cannot find any documentation on *sending* e-mail through,
say, an SMTP server.

I have a web hosting account at a local ISP.  I share a cable modem in a
house; the cable modem ISP is not the same as my web hosting ISP.  I've
set up masquerading for my ISP.  However, when I send e-mail to an
Earthlink address, Earthlink sees that I'm coming from the cable modem,
but stating that I'm coming from somewhere else.  So, it bounces my
e-mail.

I can resolve this problem by sending my e-mail through my ISP's SMTP
server.  However, I just can  "servers: remote.server" because my ISP
naturally doesn't allow relaying.  What I need to do is sort of the
inverse for some of the POP/IMAP solutions.  That is, I need to log into
the SMTP server with my username and password and *then* send my e-mail
through.  Is there a way to do that with MH?  (Or, more specifically,
NMH?)

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Re: Trying to send e-mail through an SMTP server
From: 5aea3fc@vzpeak.com.db
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:56:40 GMT

|I have a web hosting account at a local ISP.  I share a cable modem in a
|house; the cable modem ISP is not the same as my web hosting ISP.  I've
|set up masquerading for my ISP.  However, when I send e-mail to an
|Earthlink address, Earthlink sees that I'm coming from the cable modem,
|but stating that I'm coming from somewhere else.  So, it bounces my
|e-mail.

Yes, lots of SMTP servers reject connections from broadband addresses
these days due to spam, unfortunately.

|I can resolve this problem by sending my e-mail through my ISP's SMTP
|server.  However, I just can  "servers: remote.server" because my ISP
|naturally doesn't allow relaying.  What I need to do is sort of the
|inverse for some of the POP/IMAP solutions.  That is, I need to log into
|the SMTP server with my username and password and *then* send my e-mail
|through.  Is there a way to do that with MH?  (Or, more specifically,
|NMH?)

Does your ISP support SMTP after POP? I have no idea how you'd get this
working with MH, but if you can fetch your email with POP,
authenticating for this, then you are cleared to use SMTP to send mail,
for a short period.

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
From: Mark Coletti <mcoletti@lychnobite.org>
Subject: Re: Trying to send e-mail through an SMTP server
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:07:45 GMT

5aea3fc wrote:

> Does your ISP support SMTP after POP? I have no idea how you'd get this
> working with MH, but if you can fetch your email with POP,
> authenticating for this, then you are cleared to use SMTP to send mail,
> for a short period.
 
My ISP does support POP-before-SMTP, and your solution is the one they gave
me.  Since I use fetchmail to regularly get my e-mail, then I'm
implicitly authorized to relay through their mail server for a time.  The
key is insuring that the fetchmail daemon's refresh period is less than
the mail relay permission window.  ;)

(The reason I didn't find out by accident that I could relay through
their server by happening to use fetchmail to get authentication is that
I just moved to this ISP and hadn't set up fetchmail at the time yet.)

However, it'd be nice if the nmh/mh authors would give server
authentication ability to send and post for those that choose to rely
entirely on MH for getting _and_ sending e-mail.  (And it would restore
functional symmetry that's now apparently non-existent.)

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