dsl_recommendation

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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:42:26 -0700
From: Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com>
To: svlug@svlug.org
Subject: Re: [svlug] Want a dial up server!

begin  David E. Fox quotation:

>> ADSL.
> 
> Asinnotworking Digital Subscriber Link, right? :)

Well, what I meant is that "DSL" is a broad category encompassing some 
vastly different services (ADSL, HDSL, SDSL, IDSL...) with (among other
things) very different speed characteristics.  When people mean ADSL,
they should say ADSL.

> Actually, PacBell is only providing the wire. I'm going through
> RawBandwidth.com. Price is an issue, but most of the ADSL services are
> pretty close these days.

I take back what I said, then:  rawbandwidth.com is an excellent
company, hampered only by their need (like all other local xDSL
providers) to rely on PacBell provisioning.  Good choice.


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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 14:53:53 -0700
From: "Jeffrey B. Siegal" <jbs@quiotix.com>
To: Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com>
Subject: Re: [svlug] Want a dial up server!

Rick Moen wrote:
> I take back what I said, then:  rawbandwidth.com is an excellent
> company, hampered only by their need (like all other local xDSL
> providers) to rely on PacBell provisioning.  

That's not quite correct.

RawBandwidth, like other PacBell ADSL ISP partners, uses PacBell for
both the physical and link layers (OSI level 1 and 2).  

XDSL providers who work with a data CLEC like Covad or Northpoint rely
on PacBell only for the physical layer (OSI level 1), not the link layer
(OSI level 2).  Leaving aside the technoligical service differences for
the moment, this has organizational advantages and disadvantages:  On
the advantage side, it means there is less for PacBell to screw up.[*] 
On the disadvantage side, it means there are now three vendors involved,
which may result in more finger pointing.  I've heard some real
finger-pointing horror stories with DSL.

[*] I have both a PacBell-based service and a Covad-based service.  The
Covad-based service has been much more reliable at the link level.


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