modperl_distro_peculiarities_mandrake_redhat_etc

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To: dreamwvr <dreamwvr@dreamwvr.com>, Jamie Krasnoo
<webmaster@myeboard.com>
From: "Clayton Cottingham aka drfrog" <drfrog@smartt.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for a new distro
Date: 13 Jan 2001 15:04:58 PST

heya all:

im really waiting for the next bunch of releases here,

im hoping that they all start doing a lil more Q&A before release!!

ive tried a lot of different dists and nothing has me going
"oh yeah!!"

mandrake 7.2 is my current 
"lesser of  Nth evils"

last summer i went to town downloading everything from 
debian to suse and back to slack and redhat 

at the time i started using mandrake its mod_perl was sett up nice

its not bad on 7.2 but it splits up so there is an httpd and an httpd-perl

i dont like having to configure 
both so i un-rpmd then and rolled my own, DSO style
install in less than thirty mins
drop my config in and zoom!!

again some of this has to do with how a dist sets up apache
i like it all in /home/ww 
but most put the conf 's under /etc etc etc.

some of these compatiblility & file management issues drive me nuts!!
and i usually uninstall and recomp my own

well that my take on it anyhow

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To: Jamie Krasnoo <webmaster@myeboard.com>
From: Wim Kerkhoff <wim@merilus.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for a new distro
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:44:58 -0800

For some reason, I think this will be a long (but on-topic) thread...

On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 12:32:44PM -0800, Jamie Krasnoo wrote:
> Ok, I've had it with RH 7.0. Too many problems. What Linux distro are some
> of you using with Apache 1.3.14 and mod perl 1.24_01?


I use Debian (potato/woody/sid). Getting a good development
environment is a snap, and I've never lost time to figuring
out wierd kernel/glibc/perl problems.  Personally I prefer
to do a very minimal install of debian, then just apt-get
whatever I need (ssh, vim, etc). Perl modules can be
installed using apt-get, but it's just as easy to get them
using the CPAN module.  Not having to hunt down dependencies
and download separate RPM's is something you get used to
_very_ quickly!  Within an hour, I can have debian
installed, a new kernel compiled, and apache/mod_perl
compiled and installed.

/me goes back to getting Perl 5.6, LWP, and other things to
work properly on a RH 7.0 box... ARGH!!

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To: modperl@apache.org
From: "Sean D. Cook" <sdc@edutest.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for a new distro
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:30:24 -0500 (EST)

On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, dreamwvr wrote:

> Try ..
> www.linux-mandrake.com
> Jamie Krasnoo wrote:
> 

Not to turn this into a distro war but mandrake is not exactly known for
its stability.  Redhat is currently in a .0 release which is not stable at
all.  Debian and Slackware are really your best bet for
stability.  Personally I recommend slackware.  If you really want to stick
with Redhat you can get a copy of 6.2 it is pretty standard.  

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To: "Jeffrey A. Stuart" <jstuart-devel@neo.rr.com>,
From: "Jamie Krasnoo" <webmaster@myeboard.com>
Subject: RE: Looking for a new distro
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:44:11 -0800

I found what the problem was, thanks to Michael Weiner (Hunter). For some
reason, when mod_perl is compiled in to Apache as a static, it loads the
file stated in PerlRequire twice. When I recompiled mod_perl as a DSO it
stopped doing that. This bug seems like its a problem with the RedHat
distro. I should have seen it. There may be a reason that RH 7.0 comes with
Apache compiled with all mods in DSO. This problem doesn't seem to crop up
on other distributions.

Anyways, I think we can put this thread to bed. Thanks to everyone for your
comments.

Jamie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey A. Stuart [mailto:jstuart-devel@neo.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 3:48 PM
To: Clayton Cottingham aka drfrog; dreamwvr; Jamie Krasnoo
Cc: Modperl
Subject: RE: Looking for a new distro


Hey just as an FYI... I've got mod_perl and apache 1.3.14 and PHP 4.04 (I
think or maybe 4.03pl1) installed with no problems on my redhat 7 box.  Now,
it's my devel box so I don't know if there are any "major" problems with it.
:)  It does double duty as my devel box and my personal router (got my cable
modem hooked up on it and then route my internal boxes through it. :)).  For
Apache/mod_perl/PHP, I downloaded the source and installed those directly
along with Mysql...

--
Jeff (FurBall)
WebOverdrive Newbie Tech Board
http://www.topniche.com/tech/
furball@weboverdrive.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton Cottingham aka drfrog [mailto:drfrog@smartt.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 6:05 PM
To: dreamwvr; Jamie Krasnoo
Cc: Modperl
Subject: Re: Looking for a new distro

heya all:

im really waiting for the next bunch of releases here,

im hoping that they all start doing a lil more Q&A before release!!

ive tried a lot of different dists and nothing has me going
"oh yeah!!"

mandrake 7.2 is my current
"lesser of  Nth evils"

last summer i went to town downloading everything from
debian to suse and back to slack and redhat

at the time i started using mandrake its mod_perl was sett up nice

its not bad on 7.2 but it splits up so there is an httpd and an httpd-perl

i dont like having to configure
both so i un-rpmd then and rolled my own, DSO style
install in less than thirty mins
drop my config in and zoom!!

again some of this has to do with how a dist sets up apache
i like it all in /home/ww
but most put the conf 's under /etc etc etc.

some of these compatiblility & file management issues drive me nuts!!
and i usually uninstall and recomp my own

well that my take on it anyhow

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