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Subject: Re: More succes stories, please
From: "Ron Savage" <ron@savage.net.au>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:21:04 +1000

Klaus H <klaus@hotmail.com> wrote:
To: <dbi-users@isc.org>

> I would like more perl success stories.

> We have been programming this website and we started in
> perl. And it works fine. And fast too with fastcgi. But
> some in the project have made a part of the website in
> java. And they say that java will be the standard for
> website development. So the boss's wants everything
> converted to java. Its just that, the java guy's haven't
> shown any results. Bosses are strange.

> I hope this is the right place to cry :-)
>
> So if I had more success stories I would feel better.. But it probaly
> wouldn't help if I showed it the to bosses.

> Anyway, i'm also looking for danish perl programmers.
>

Where I work they started with ASP, and _very_ expensive programmers. There
programs they wrote were mediocre, so management got rid of all of them.

Then they (management) tried using PHP, but it is very unreliable. You run a
program twice and get 2 different answers...

Now everything we do is in Perl.

Java is like a big club thugs use to beat us Perl programmers with. But I
say, making _every single programmer_ write in Java is like making _every
single driver_ drive a Toyota. That's thuggery - a dictatorship. It's a
psychiatric problem, it's not a programming problem.

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Subject: Re: More succes stories, please
From: Thomas von Elling Skifter Eibner <thomas@io.stderr.net>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:30:56 +0200

Hello Klaus,

On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 09:56:52AM +0200, Klaus H wrote:
> I would like more perl success stories.

http://perl.oreilly.com/news/success_stories.html
http://perl.apache.org/stories/

> We have been programming this website and we started in perl. And it works 
> fine. And fast too with fastcgi. But some in the project have made a part of 
> the website in java. And they say that java will be the standard for website 
> development. So the boss's wants everything converted to java. Its just 
> that, the java guy's haven't shown any results. Bosses are strange.

Is it just me or is the impression of Java that it's just sooooo slow? Isn't there also a lot of time spent on development? With Perl you have _very_ fast development, which should be excactly what your boss wants (eg. more cost effective). 
Why only fastcgi? There is the excellent mod_perl too :-) Which I am using all the time here at my workplace at Lasat Networks in Bagsvaerd.

> So if I had more success stories I would feel better.. But it probaly 
> wouldn't help if I showed it the to bosses.

I can't point you to a specific success story of my own, but
we simply love the ease of programming here.

> Anyway, i'm also looking for danish perl programmers.

I am one :-) Hej! 

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