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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Jesse Keating <hosting@j2solutions.net>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:54:14 -0800

Bill and/or Chris wrote:

> I am trying to upgrade to the latest kernel,
> 2.4.18-24.8.0, and I keep getting an error message from
> up2date saying, "Test install failed because of package
> conflicts: package ppp-2.4.1-7 is already installed".  Any
> ideas on why this is happening and how I can resolve it?
> Thanks in advance.

ppp package probably has to be updated at the same time or before the kernel 
install.  rpm -Uvh the new ppp package, rpm -ivh the kernel package.


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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Bill and/or Chris <bill_chris@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: 20 Feb 2003 20:54:52 -0500

Jesse Keating wrote:

> Bill and/or Chris wrote:
> > I am trying to upgrade to the latest kernel, 2.4.18-24.8.0, and I 
> > keep getting an error message from up2date saying, "Test install 
> > failed because of package conflicts: package ppp-2.4.1-7 is already 
> > installed". Any ideas on why this is happening and how I can resolve
> > it? Thanks in advance.
> 
> ppp package probably has to be updated at the same time or before the
> kernel install. rpm -Uvh the new ppp package, rpm -ivh the kernel
> package.
> 

Ppp is already updated to version 2.4.1-7, and I can't find any newer
versions at rpmfind.net (at least not for my architecture).

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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Michael Schwendt <ms0301rh@arcor.de>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:00:35 +0100

Jesse Keating wrote:

> Bill and/or Chris wrote:

> > I am trying to upgrade to the latest kernel, 2.4.18-24.8.0, and I keep
> > getting an error message from up2date saying, "Test install failed
> > because of package conflicts: package ppp-2.4.1-7 is already
> > installed".  Any ideas on why this is happening and how I can resolve
> > it?  Thanks in advance.
> 
> ppp package probably has to be updated at the same time or before the kernel 
> install.  rpm -Uvh the new ppp package, rpm -ivh the kernel package.

To which ppp package should he upgrade? There hasn't been any ppp
upgrade for Psyche.

Is that ppp-2.4.1-7 the original one from Psyche or from a different
site?  What files does it contain?

How is up2date called exactly in this scenario?

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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Ralf Spenneberg <lists@spenneberg.org>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: 21 Feb 2003 11:37:13 +0100

Bill and/or Chris wrote:
> Jesse Keating wrote:
> 
> > Bill and/or Chris wrote:
> > > I am trying to upgrade to the latest kernel, 2.4.18-24.8.0, and I 
> > > keep getting an error message from up2date saying, "Test install 
> > > failed because of package conflicts: package ppp-2.4.1-7 is already 
> > > installed". Any ideas on why this is happening and how I can resolve
> > > it? Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > ppp package probably has to be updated at the same time or before the
> > kernel install. rpm -Uvh the new ppp package, rpm -ivh the kernel
> > package.
> > 
> 
> Ppp is already updated to version 2.4.1-7, and I can't find any newer
> versions at rpmfind.net (at least not for my architecture).

Please never upgrade a kernel. Always install the kernel.
Download the kernel rpm and do a
rpm -ivh kernel...
If it fails please post the exact error messages (yank and put them
here)!

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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Bill and/or Chris <bill_chris@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: 21 Feb 2003 06:24:44 -0500

Ralf Spenneberg wrote:
> Bill and/or Chris wrote:
> > Jesse Keating wrote:
> > 
> > > Bill and/or Chris wrote:
> > > > I am trying to upgrade to the latest kernel, 2.4.18-24.8.0, and I 
> > > > keep getting an error message from up2date saying, "Test install 
> > > > failed because of package conflicts: package ppp-2.4.1-7 is already 
> > > > installed". Any ideas on why this is happening and how I can resolve
> > > > it? Thanks in advance.
> > > 
> > > ppp package probably has to be updated at the same time or before the
> > > kernel install. rpm -Uvh the new ppp package, rpm -ivh the kernel
> > > package.
> > > 
> > 
> > Ppp is already updated to version 2.4.1-7, and I can't find any newer
> > versions at rpmfind.net (at least not for my architecture).

> Please never upgrade a kernel. Always install the kernel.
> Download the kernel rpm and do a
> rpm -ivh kernel...

> If it fails please post the exact error messages (yank and put them
> here)!

I am attempting to upgrade the kernel via up2date, so this should not
even be a problem.  But when I try to install it manually, I get the
following error message:

error: Failed dependencies:
        ppp <= 2.3.15 conflicts with kernel-2.4.18-24.8.0

As I stated before, the version of ppp that I have is 2.4.1-7.  Any
ideas?

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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Michael Kuss <kuss@pi.infn.it>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:31:03 +0100 (CET)

Bill and/or Chris wrote:

> Ralf Spenneberg wrote:
> > Bill and/or Chris wrote:
> > > Jesse Keating wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Bill and/or Chris wrote:
> > > > > I am trying to upgrade to the latest kernel, 2.4.18-24.8.0, and I 
> > > > > keep getting an error message from up2date saying, "Test install 
> > > > > failed because of package conflicts: package ppp-2.4.1-7 is already 
> > > > > installed". Any ideas on why this is happening and how I can resolve
> > > > > it? Thanks in advance.
> > > > 
> > > > ppp package probably has to be updated at the same time or before the
> > > > kernel install. rpm -Uvh the new ppp package, rpm -ivh the kernel
> > > > package.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Ppp is already updated to version 2.4.1-7, and I can't find any newer
> > > versions at rpmfind.net (at least not for my architecture).

> > Please never upgrade a kernel. Always install the kernel.
> > Download the kernel rpm and do a
> > rpm -ivh kernel...
> > If it fails please post the exact error messages (yank and put them
> > here)!

> I am attempting to upgrade the kernel via up2date, so this should not
> even be a problem.  But when I try to install it manually, I get the
> following error message:
> 
> error: Failed dependencies:
>         ppp <= 2.3.15 conflicts with kernel-2.4.18-24.8.0
> 
> As I stated before, the version of ppp that I have is 2.4.1-7.  Any
> ideas?

Can you make an 'rpm -q ppp'?  If nothing helps, you can also uninstall
ppp (and what depends on it), install the kernel, then reinstall the
erased packages.

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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Bill and/or Chris <bill_chris@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: 21 Feb 2003 06:31:46 -0500

Michael Schwendt wrote:

> Jesse Keating wrote:
> 
> > Bill and/or Chris wrote:
> > > I am trying to upgrade to the latest kernel, 2.4.18-24.8.0, and I keep
> > > getting an error message from up2date saying, "Test install failed
> > > because of package conflicts: package ppp-2.4.1-7 is already
> > > installed".  Any ideas on why this is happening and how I can resolve
> > > it?  Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > ppp package probably has to be updated at the same time or before the kernel 
> > install.  rpm -Uvh the new ppp package, rpm -ivh the kernel package.
> 
> To which ppp package should he upgrade? There hasn't been any ppp
> upgrade for Psyche.
> 
> Is that ppp-2.4.1-7 the original one from Psyche or from a different
> site?  What files does it contain?
> 

It's the original one from the 8.0 disk.  Here are the files it
contains:

# rpm -ql ppp
/etc/pam.d/ppp
/etc/ppp
/etc/ppp/chap-secrets
/etc/ppp/options
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets
/usr/sbin/chat
/usr/sbin/pppd
/usr/sbin/pppdump
/usr/sbin/pppstats
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/README
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/README.linux
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/sample
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/sample/auth-down
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/sample/auth-up
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/sample/ip-down
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/sample/ip-up
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/sample/options
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/sample/options.ttyXX
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/sample/pap-secrets
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/README
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/callback
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/chat-callback
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/chatchat
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/chatchat/README
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/chatchat/chatchat.c
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/ip-down.local.add
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/ip-up.local.add
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/options-rsh-loc
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/options-rsh-rem
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/options-ssh-loc
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/options-ssh-rem
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/ppp-off
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/ppp-on
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/ppp-on-dialer
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/ppp-on-rsh
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/ppp-on-ssh
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/redialer
/usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.1/scripts/secure-card
/usr/share/man/man8/chat.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/pppd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/pppdump.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/pppstats.8.gz

> How is up2date called exactly in this scenario?
> 

I am using the GUI.
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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Bill and/or Chris <bill_chris@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: 21 Feb 2003 06:37:05 -0500

Michael Kuss wrote:

> Bill and/or Chris wrote:
> 
> > Ralf Spenneberg wrote:
> > > Bill and/or Chris wrote::
> > > > Jesse Keating wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Bill and/or Chris wrote:
> > > > > > I am trying to upgrade to the latest kernel, 2.4.18-24.8.0, and I 
> > > > > > keep getting an error message from up2date saying, "Test install 
> > > > > > failed because of package conflicts: package ppp-2.4.1-7 is already 
> > > > > > installed". Any ideas on why this is happening and how I can resolve
> > > > > > it? Thanks in advance.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ppp package probably has to be updated at the same time or before the
> > > > > kernel install. rpm -Uvh the new ppp package, rpm -ivh the kernel
> > > > > package.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ppp is already updated to version 2.4.1-7, and I can't find any newer
> > > > versions at rpmfind.net (at least not for my architecture).
> > > Please never upgrade a kernel. Always install the kernel.
> > > Download the kernel rpm and do a
> > > rpm -ivh kernel...
> > > If it fails please post the exact error messages (yank and put them
> > > here)!
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Ralf
> > 
> > I am attempting to upgrade the kernel via up2date, so this should not
> > even be a problem.  But when I try to install it manually, I get the
> > following error message:
> > 
> > error: Failed dependencies:
> >         ppp <= 2.3.15 conflicts with kernel-2.4.18-24.8.0
> > 
> > As I stated before, the version of ppp that I have is 2.4.1-7.  Any
> > ideas?
> 
> Can you make an 'rpm -q ppp'?  If nothing helps, you can also uninstall
> ppp (and what depends on it), install the kernel, then reinstall the
> erased packages.

rpm -q ppp returns ppp-2.4.1-7.  I had actually thought about
uninstalling ppp, but I was wondering if there was another way.

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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Michael Kuss <kuss@pi.infn.it>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:40:57 +0100 (CET)

Bill and/or Chris wrote:

> Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > Jesse Keating wrote:
> > 
> > > Bill and/or Chris wrote:
> > > > I am trying to upgrade to the latest kernel, 2.4.18-24.8.0, and I keep
> > > > getting an error message from up2date saying, "Test install failed
> > > > because of package conflicts: package ppp-2.4.1-7 is already
> > > > installed".  Any ideas on why this is happening and how I can resolve
> > > > it?  Thanks in advance.
> > > 
> > > ppp package probably has to be updated at the same time or before the kernel 
> > > install.  rpm -Uvh the new ppp package, rpm -ivh the kernel package.
> > 
> > To which ppp package should he upgrade? There hasn't been any ppp
> > upgrade for Psyche.
> > 
> > Is that ppp-2.4.1-7 the original one from Psyche or from a different
> > site?  What files does it contain?
> > 
> 
> It's the original one from the 8.0 disk.  Here are the files it
> contains:
> 
> # rpm -ql ppp

snip

well, I wanted to see if there is only one ppp installed on your system.  
But the listing says it too.

I think it consensus that it should work the way you are doing it.  I 
would try three things:

1) rpm -V ppp

2) the before mentioned erase of "conflicting packages" (reinstall ppp and 
friends is not such a hassle), install kernel, and reinstall

3) rebuild the rpm database.  Maybe something there got corrupted.

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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Ralf Spenneberg <lists@spenneberg.org>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: 21 Feb 2003 13:07:33 +0100

Bill and/or Chris:

> > > error: Failed dependencies:
> > >         ppp <= 2.3.15 conflicts with kernel-2.4.18-24.8.0
> > > 
> > > As I stated before, the version of ppp that I have is 2.4.1-7.  Any
> > > ideas?

Just for the curious, can you do a 
rpm -q --whatprovides ppp

Anyway, if all version are save you should be able to do a 
rpm -i --nodeps kernel

Rebuilding the database might help, too (did you do it yet? it does not
hurt!)
rpm --rebuilddb

If everything fails and you still are curious and not annoyed you might
want to post on the RedHat RPM list (see https://listman.redhat.com).
Otherwise remove ppp and install the kernel and ppp afterwards. You
might have to remove some additional packages, but they are pulled in
again by up2date ppp later on.

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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Michael Schwendt <ms0301rh@arcor.de>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:13:54 +0100

Bill and/or Chris wrote:

> I am attempting to upgrade the kernel via up2date, so this should not
> even be a problem.  But when I try to install it manually, I get the
> following error message:
> 
> error: Failed dependencies:
>         ppp <= 2.3.15 conflicts with kernel-2.4.18-24.8.0
> 
> As I stated before, the version of ppp that I have is 2.4.1-7.  Any
> ideas?

Do 

  rpm --query --provides ppp
  rpm --query --whatprovides ppp
  
confirm that?

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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Bill and/or Chris <bill_chris@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: 21 Feb 2003 07:17:29 -0500

Michael Kuss wrote:

> Bill and/or Chris wrote:
> 
> > Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > 
> > > Jesse Keating wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Bill and/or Chris wrote:
> > > > > I am trying to upgrade to the latest kernel, 2.4.18-24.8.0, and I keep
> > > > > getting an error message from up2date saying, "Test install failed
> > > > > because of package conflicts: package ppp-2.4.1-7 is already
> > > > > installed".  Any ideas on why this is happening and how I can resolve
> > > > > it?  Thanks in advance.
> > > > 
> > > > ppp package probably has to be updated at the same time or before the kernel 
> > > > install.  rpm -Uvh the new ppp package, rpm -ivh the kernel package.
> > > 
> > > To which ppp package should he upgrade? There hasn't been any ppp
> > > upgrade for Psyche.
> > > 
> > > Is that ppp-2.4.1-7 the original one from Psyche or from a different
> > > site?  What files does it contain?
> > > 
> > 
> > It's the original one from the 8.0 disk.  Here are the files it
> > contains:
> > 
> > # rpm -ql ppp
> 
> snip
> 
> well, I wanted to see if there is only one ppp installed on your system.  
> But the listing says it too.
> 
> I think it consensus that it should work the way you are doing it.  I 
> would try three things:
> 
> 1) rpm -V ppp
> 
Here are the results:

# rpm -V ppp
S.5....T c /etc/ppp/chap-secrets
S.5....T c /etc/ppp/options
S.5....T c /etc/ppp/pap-secrets

> 2) the before mentioned erase of "conflicting packages" (reinstall ppp and 
> friends is not such a hassle), install kernel, and reinstall
> 
> 3) rebuild the rpm database.  Maybe something there got corrupted.

I tried rebuilding the rpm database, but up2date still gives me the same
error.  I'll try #2 if nothing else works.

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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Bill and/or Chris <bill_chris@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: 21 Feb 2003 07:31:24 -0500

Ralf Spenneberg wrote:
> Bill and/or Chris wrote::
> 
> > > > error: Failed dependencies:
> > > >         ppp <= 2.3.15 conflicts with kernel-2.4.18-24.8.0
> > > > 
> > > > As I stated before, the version of ppp that I have is 2.4.1-7.  Any
> > > > ideas?
> Just for the curious, can you do a 
> rpm -q --whatprovides ppp
> 

# rpm -q --whatprovides ppp
ppp-2.4.1-7
ppp-mppe-2.4.0-4

> Anyway, if all version are save you should be able to do a 
> rpm -i --nodeps kernel
> 

Are you sure?  Using --nodeps makes me nervous for something as
important as the kernel.  But if you think it's OK, maybe I'll try it.

> Rebuilding the database might help, too (did you do it yet? it does not
> hurt!)
> rpm --rebuilddb
> 

I just tried it, and it does not seem to help.


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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Ralf Spenneberg <lists@spenneberg.org>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: 21 Feb 2003 13:52:17 +0100

Bill and/or Chris wrote: 
> Ralf Spenneberg wrote:
> > Bill and/or Chris wrote::
> > 
> > > > > error: Failed dependencies:
> > > > >         ppp <= 2.3.15 conflicts with kernel-2.4.18-24.8.0
> > > > > 
> > > > > As I stated before, the version of ppp that I have is 2.4.1-7.  Any
> > > > > ideas?
> > Just for the curious, can you do a 
> > rpm -q --whatprovides ppp
> > 
> 
> # rpm -q --whatprovides ppp
> ppp-2.4.1-7
> ppp-mppe-2.4.0-4
> 
There we are. You have to remove ppp-mppe-2.4.0-4 because the database
states that this package provides ppp-2.4.0!

Then everything should work.
If you need a new ppp with mppe support, you will find one at my webpage
(mentioned below): ppp-2.4.1-mppe7.i386.rpm


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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Michael Schwendt <ms0301rh@arcor.de>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:57:54 +0100

Bill and/or Chris wrote:

> # rpm -q --whatprovides ppp
> ppp-2.4.1-7
> ppp-mppe-2.4.0-4

ppp-mppe is not a package from Red Hat and most likely the cause of
the confusion. I would recommend you erase it prior to installing
the new kernel. Keep us updated.


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To: psyche-list@listman.redhat.com
From: Michael Schwendt <ms0301rh@arcor.de>
Subject: Re: Having trouble upgrading to latest kernel
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:02:22 +0100

On 21 Feb 2003 07:35:29 -0500, Bill and/or Chris wrote:

> > > I am attempting to upgrade the kernel via up2date, so this should not
> > > even be a problem.  But when I try to install it manually, I get the
> > > following error message:
> > > 
> > > error: Failed dependencies:
> > >         ppp <= 2.3.15 conflicts with kernel-2.4.18-24.8.0
> > > 
> > > As I stated before, the version of ppp that I have is 2.4.1-7.  Any
> > > ideas?
> > 
> > Do 
> > 
> >   rpm --query --provides ppp
> >   rpm --query --whatprovides ppp
> >   
> > confirm that?
> 
> Yes, as well as rpm -q ppp.

"rpm -q ppp" is something different, however. Try above with your third party ppp-mppe
package.


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