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To: redhat-list@redhat.com From: fred smith <fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> Subject: Re: root-tail with 7.2 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 09:29:23 -0500 On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 06:26:43AM -0600, G. T. Francisco, III wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:30:51PM +0000, Rodolfo J. Paiz said: > > At 10/27/2001 05:23 PM -0400, you wrote: > > >I usually run root-tail on my messages file so I can see what is going on at > > >all times. > > > > Can't help you, but... what's a root-tail? > > > > root-tail is a program that tails a file, e.g. /var/log/messages as > part of your desktop. pretty handy. Not familiar with that program, don't know where to get it. But "less filename" followed by "F" at the less prompt works just fine for me. "tail" would also work, but using less lets me skip from the tail to some other portion if I want to quickly review what has gone off the top of the screen, then jump back to the tail. === To: redhat-list@redhat.com, fred smith <fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> From: "Darren R. Weber" <weberdr@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: root-tail with 7.2 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 12:41:55 -0500 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 28 October 2001 09:29, fred smith wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 06:26:43AM -0600, G. T. Francisco, III wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:30:51PM +0000, Rodolfo J. Paiz said: > > > At 10/27/2001 05:23 PM -0400, you wrote: > > > >I usually run root-tail on my messages file so I can see what is going > > > > on at all times. > > > > > > Can't help you, but... what's a root-tail? > > > > root-tail is a program that tails a file, e.g. /var/log/messages as > > part of your desktop. pretty handy. > > Not familiar with that program, don't know where to get it. But > "less filename" followed by "F" at the less prompt works just fine > for me. "tail" would also work, but using less lets me skip from the > tail to some other portion if I want to quickly review what has gone > off the top of the screen, then jump back to the tail. > > Fred Thanks but that's not what I am looking for. tail -f will do the same thing. root-tail does the same function but overlays the output onto your root window (background) so no terminal is needed. For some reason though it has broken between 7.1 and 7.2. === To: "redhat-list@redhat.com" <redhat-list@redhat.com> From: Gordon Messmer <yinyang@eburg.com> Subject: Re: root-tail with 7.2 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 10:32:08 -0800 (PST) On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, Darren R. Weber wrote: > I usually run root-tail on my messages file so I can see what is going on at > all times. The other day I rebuilt a system at work with 7.2 and when I > installed root-tail . . . no go. root-tail won't work in Gnome > 1.4 or KDE > 2.0. Both now default to filemanagers that paint a window over the X root window. I don't know what's behind the decision of those authors to do so, but it's damn irritating. If you want to use root-tail, turn off Nautilus. Go back to GMC or don't use a filemanager :) Other than root-tail, what else uses the X root window? I first noticed this when running xscreensavers in the root window didn't appear to do anything. It's usually one of those things I do to test GLX :) === To: redhat-list@redhat.com From: Larry Grover <grover@marshall.edu> Subject: Re: root-tail with 7.2 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:22:01 -0500 On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 13:32:08 Gordon Messmer wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, Darren R. Weber wrote: > > > I usually run root-tail on my messages file so I can see what is > going on at > > all times. The other day I rebuilt a system at work with 7.2 and > when I > > installed root-tail . . . no go. > > root-tail won't work in Gnome > 1.4 or KDE > 2.0. Both now default > to > filemanagers that paint a window over the X root window. I don't > know > what's behind the decision of those authors to do so, but it's damn > irritating. Agreed. > If you want to use root-tail, turn off Nautilus. Go back to GMC or > don't > use a filemanager :) I don't know about KDE, but the Gnome/Nautilus shipped with rh7.2 allows you to turn off this annoying feature. You can do this through the gui (maybe also a config file you can edit?): open nautilus, select 'preferences' (only works if you have 'intermediate' or 'advanced' selected) -> 'edit preferences' -> 'windows & desktops' and de-select the the checkbox for 'use nautilus to draw the desktop'. Then you can run nautilus and root-tail, and see the output on your root window. === To: "redhat-list@redhat.com" <redhat-list@redhat.com> From: Gordon Messmer <yinyang@eburg.com> Subject: Re: root-tail with 7.2 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:25:12 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Larry Grover wrote: > > If you want to use root-tail, turn off Nautilus. Go back to GMC or > > don't use a filemanager :) > > I don't know about KDE, but the Gnome/Nautilus shipped with rh7.2 > allows you to turn off this annoying feature. You can do this through > the gui (maybe also a config file you can edit?): open nautilus, > select 'preferences' (only works if you have 'intermediate' or > 'advanced' selected) -> 'edit preferences' -> 'windows & desktops' and > de-select the the checkbox for 'use nautilus to draw the desktop'. Doesn't turning that option off disable nautilus completely? I don't mean to imply that you can't run it like that, but you don't get desktop icons, and it isn't resident when you close the open windows... === To: redhat-list@redhat.com From: Larry Grover <grover@marshall.edu> Subject: Re: root-tail with 7.2 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:10:18 -0500 On 2001.10.29 21:25 Gordon Messmer wrote: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Larry Grover wrote: > > > > If you want to use root-tail, turn off Nautilus. Go back to GMC > or > > > don't use a filemanager :) > > > > I don't know about KDE, but the Gnome/Nautilus shipped with rh7.2 > > allows you to turn off this annoying feature. You can do this > through > > the gui (maybe also a config file you can edit?): open nautilus, > > select 'preferences' (only works if you have 'intermediate' or > > 'advanced' selected) -> 'edit preferences' -> 'windows & desktops' > and > > de-select the the checkbox for 'use nautilus to draw the desktop'. > > Doesn't turning that option off disable nautilus completely? I don't > mean to imply that you can't run it like that, but you don't get > desktop > icons, and it isn't resident when you close the open windows... It doesn't disable nautilus completely -- it still functions as a file manager (and maybe web-browser, notepad, bottle openner, etc). But you're right, you will lose the nautilus-managed icons, and maybe other functionalilty as well. Depending on how you like your desktop to work, this could be an advantage or a disadvantage. ===