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Subject: Re: 6.2 vs 6.1
From: Rick Forrister <rickf@crow.jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:58:43 -0700
DYATES@perrigo.com said:
> Does anybody here wish they had not upgraded from 6.1 to 6.2? I have
> been using redhat since 4.0, and this is the first new version that I
> have been unhappy with. It sort of seems like a downgrade for me.
Nope. Curious why you feel it's a downgrade. rp3 now works pretty
well for configuring dialup services, sound was properly found &
configured, compilers, perl, python, etc all show signs of working
properly. Even the gui installer, anaconda, works reasonably well for
most systems.
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Subject: Re: 6.2 vs 6.1
From: Peter Blomgren <blomgren@monster.stanford.edu>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:44:55 -0700 (PDT)
David,
> Does anybody here wish they had not upgraded from 6.1 to 6.2?
> I have been using redhat since 4.0, and this is the first new version that I
> have been unhappy with.
> It sort of seems like a downgrade for me.
That's an interesting statement. Can you elaborate? I've been around
since 5.1, and either this is the best upgrade (in my opinion), or I've
learned to avoid the land-mines. In the past I have had to do lots of
post-upgrade tweaks to get things working the way they "should", this
time around there are only 3 items on my list -- all local customizations.
The 6.1 -> 6.2 upgrade is not very "sexy." It's just an incremental
upgrade; I would argue that in this case "boring" is good -- it shows
that Linux (and the RedHat flavor thereof) is maturing.
There is a good chance/risk that 6.2 -> 7.0 with major upgrades to
the kernel (2.4.x), compilers (gcc-3.x), apache (2.x), etc. will be
more "exciting."
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Subject: Re: 6.2 vs 6.1
From: Gustav Schaffter <gustav@schaffter.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:15:18 +0200
David,
The only thing that bugs me is that they crunched my
/etc/ppp/ip-up.local and /etc/ppp/ip-down.local files with some stupid
ISDN stuff. There went my ipchains scripts down the drain. (Luckily, I
had a backup that wasn't too old.) I immediately reported it to
bugzilla. It's 'assigned'.
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Subject: Re: 6.2 vs 6.1
From: Lars Kellogg-Stedman <lars@larsshack.org>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:16:08 -0400 (EDT)
> Does anybody here wish they had not upgraded from 6.1 to 6.2?
> I have been using redhat since 4.0, and this is the first new version that I
> have been unhappy with.
> It sort of seems like a downgrade for me.
I felt the same way about 6.1.
You've made a very vague statement here, without any supporting evidence,
so it's somewhat difficult to determine why you feel this way.
6.2 -- which I am running on both Sparc and Intel systems -- has thus far
appeared to be quite stable. I found that the installer, in particular,
has been much improved over the bug-prone one used with 6.1.
What particular problems have you seen?
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Subject: Re: 6.2 vs 6.1
From: David Yates <DYATES@perrigo.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:50:33 -0400
I agree with you about 6.2 appearing quite stable. I guess it's the
desktops, (enlightenment and kde both are not uptodate, orcomplete)
and applications that seem cut back from previous versions. It just seems
like all I got was 6.1 with fixes. I had that before I
went to 6.2., I actually had more.
Sort of hard to explain.... I you read my original post, I was really just
curious about others' opinions of 6.2.
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Subject: Re: 6.2 vs 6.1
From: dsyates <dsyates@mindspring.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:57:03 -0400
Alright alright.... I take it all back:-)
I think it may have been just me. I have tried Suse 6.4 RH 6.2 and Mandrake 7.0
all since Monday. I am back with Redhat. I think 6.2 felt smaller
to, like they had removed some stuff since 6.1. I am gonna
stick with RedHat though. Out of the 3 dostro's I have tried in the last 7 days,
RH 6.2 is the only one allow me hitch free installation of
StarOffice , Worperfect 2000 office suite, UnrealTournament, CodeWarrior, Quake3.....
and the list goes on.
If I could just get it to do my wintv card and ipmasq again, like with 6.0 and 6.1....
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Subject: Re: 6.2 vs 6.1
From: Philippe Moutarlier <philippe@kscable.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 07:43:46 -0600
I have the same feeling ... before installing it !
I actually have bought the CD .. It is sitting there and I
am not very exited about installing it : I will get old
enlightemnent , old gnome , my little beloved ipchains , ppp
scripts will be smashed etc ...
BTW, I followed the little war about gome and enlightenment
versions. I have been running E 0.16 for 4 months. Very
cute, doesn't eat up that much at all. Very stable. I don't
want to go back to 0.15 . Same for gnome. And what about the
kernel : I have been running my customized 2.2.14 for 2
months already ...
Maybe this is why I am not that excited . Yes, I would go
backwards and god knows what the install/rpm will do with my
little customized things. Well, I know I will have to do it
at some point.
Just have the plan this move very well, so I won't loose
more than I gain. Redhat smashing thing is easy to get
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Subject: Re: 6.2 vs 6.1
From: Jason Costomiris <jcostom@jasons.org>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 13:42:32 -0400
On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 01:44:55PM -0700, Peter Blomgren wrote:
: That's an interesting statement. Can you elaborate? I've been around
: since 5.1, and either this is the best upgrade (in my opinion), or I've
: learned to avoid the land-mines. In the past I have had to do lots of
: post-upgrade tweaks to get things working the way they "should", this
: time around there are only 3 items on my list -- all local customizations.
I've been around since Mother's Day + 0.1, and by and large, each new
version is for the most part better than the previous. In other news,
as part of packing for a move coming up in a couple of weeks, I found
my Mother's Day + 0.1 CD, manual and the floppies I made for the
installation. Bonus points for anyone that doesn't work for RHAT that
can tell us how many floppies one had to make to do the install...
: The 6.1 -> 6.2 upgrade is not very "sexy." It's just an incremental
: upgrade; I would argue that in this case "boring" is good -- it shows
: that Linux (and the RedHat flavor thereof) is maturing.
I too see the 6.1 -> 6.2 upgrade as an incremental step toward a RH 7.0,
which will most likely include the stuff you said (kernel 2.4, gcc-3.x,
apache 2.x), plus stuff like XFree86 4.0.something, bash2 as the *standard*
bash (can't we toss bash1 out the window yet, or at least do like Mandrake
has done, and reverse the roles of bash(1|2)?
My only (minor) gripe about RH 6.2 is that (at least on the sparc version)
the linuxconf that ships adds "extras" to the /etc/named.conf when adding
secondaries that wind up resulting in syntax errors in the config file.
I haven't verified that they bug exists on i386, but have bugzilla'd it
for sparc.
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