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Subject: Re: I've read the 6.1 Installation Guide and ... From: Steve Frampton <frampton@j-com.co.jp> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:35:02 +0900 (JST) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, rpjday wrote: > arrrrggghh! because, as i recall, you asked for a "server" install, no? Er... > if something is going to be a server, that suggests it is going to be a > 24x7 box, never to be dual-booted. hence, the complete wiping of the > disks and everything on them. Huh? Why? I have a pretty nice Alpha box here, which has a RAID unit attached with about 24 Gb of user space. Until now, it has been an Digital Unix "Tru64" database server, but has been retired from that purpose. Had Vidiot not screamed loud and hard about the problems with the installation routine, Red Hat "Server" install would have not only wiped out Digital Unix on the system disk (good thing), but all 24 Gb of user data as well (BAAAAD thing). I agree 100% with Vidiot on this -- there should be an option to choose between "automatic" and "manual" partitioning. I find it amusing that so many Red Hat enthusiasts find the current way "the way it is" and that nothing can be improved upon. By the way, I'm a Red Hat apologist enthusiast myself (proof at http://www.LinuxNinja.com/linux-admin) but I'm able to recognize when a problem exists. === Subject: Re: What else did RH6.1 install forget.... From: Vidiot <brown@mrvideo.vidiot.com> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:01:51 -0600 (CST) >6.2b3 properly installs the printer support. This includes having the >support for my Epson Stylus 740 color inkjet printer. The sound was >set up properly, and automatically, on the laptop. >rickf Good news. Thanks for the update. === Subject: Re: What else did RH6.1 install forget.... From: Vidiot <brown@mrvideo.vidiot.com> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 23:49:32 -0600 (CST) >all of the time you spend complaining about it you could have done >something productive to fix your problem..........the first step of >getting out of a hole is to stop digging... I'm just discovering that the hole is deeper with each feature that I used to have under 6.0 that didn't come up under 6.1. I didn't dig that hole. I was in a situation that required a complete reload. So I figured that it would be a good time to go from 6.0 to 6.1. Mistake #1. I borrowed the Linux 6.1 CD from a friend who had cut an image. No manuals. Mistake #2. Created the boot floppy and booted to the installer. Ran auto. Mistake #3. At that point, there was no bringing up 6.0 to go out to the RedHat site, as the 6.1 installer wiped it out. So, I had to continue with 6.1 custom. I believed that the 6.1 installation would provide the same level of installation support as 6.0 did. Mistake #4. The fact that the installation did not configure the printer port or the sound card was certainly a hole that I did not dig. That hole was dug by the installer. I would certainly like to know how it is my fault that the installation didn't ask me to configure a printer or sound card. I didn't have the time to sit down and fetch 6.1 documentation and study it word for word. I had a system that was down that had to get back up. I relied upon the previous installs of Linux and what they did. I did not expect for the installer to do what it did and what it didn't do. The 4.x, 5.x and 6.0 installs went so much smoother and better than 6.1. Each newer version of RedHat Linux improved upon the previous install. If it is my fault for expecting the same type of installation in 6.1 as was provided in previous releases, I plead guilty. IMHO, the 6.1 installer was a step backwards in various aspects of what it did. Needless to say, I will never trust another RedHat installation again. And that is NOT what RedHat should expect. They should gain more trust from their customers, not less. FYI, a RedHat customer is anyone who either purchases any of their packages, downloads and cuts their own CD, gets a RedHat CD from a third party or friend. If it has the RedHat name involved with it, whoever uses it is a customer. It is a sad chain of events that led up to this. I wish that chain of events hadn't happened, but they did. ===