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Subject: Re: Mod_perl tutorials
From: Stas Bekman <stas@stason.org>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:31:36 +0100 (CET)

On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Drew Taylor wrote:

> Dave Kaufman wrote:
> > 
> > i have to say i really like the look and feel of Matt's take23.org. (and by
> > the way, for those, like me, who can't seem to keep up with reading *every*
> > message on this list... it's take23.ORG.  I went looking for "take23" and i
> > can attest that the cryptic but nicely designed take23.COM, has nothing at
> > all to do with mod_perl on it :-))
> 
> I vaguely remember seeing mockups similar to take23.org as a proposed facelift
> for perl.apache.org. I really liked the design and always wondered why it
> never got used (apart from the manhours to implement the change :-)

There were two designs proposed (those who are on the modperl-site list
have seen both) one from Brian's friend and the other from Robin. None
went into production, till Matt has picked Robin's design, so it fact the
effort wasn't lost...
 
> > i for one would like to see take23.org become "the place" for people
> > deciding if mod_perl is for them, getting started with it, and keeping up
> > with the latest and greatest.  i did turn my nose up at the banners at
> > first, but on second thought, i'm even more *thoroughly* sick of open-source
> > resource sites that are plain (unintesting, visually) and whose content is
> > stale due to a lackluster (volunteer) maintenance.  so, if some ad-income
> > keeps take23 fresh and useful, i think i could be bothered to remember the
> > URL :-)
> 
> A quick check of nsiregistry.com shows that modperlnews.(com|org|net) are all
> available. 

Too bad for you/us. You can be sure that when you will go to register any
of the above they will be all taken by a reseller. I've mentioned a few
times on this list that one should do atomic buys (tm). If you check and
don't buy in the same assembly opcode, someone else snoops on your search
and will do it for you. The only way to get a domain nowadays is to
check-buy atomically. I have enough examples of people who were
burned. I've lost stas.com 2.5 years ago, because it took me 1 day to
decide that I want to spend $$ on it, well it was taken the next day...

> Those domains are definately a little easier to remember than take23.
> What are some other alternatives to take23.org that would be easier on
> the grey matter?

modperl-1.24-01.com or libapreq.com :)

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Subject: [OT] Re: Mod_perl tutorials
From: Robin Berjon <robin@knowscape.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:24:29 +0100

At 23:31 13/12/2000 +0100, Stas Bekman wrote:
>> A quick check of nsiregistry.com shows that modperlnews.(com|org|net)
are all
>> available. 
>
>Too bad for you/us. You can be sure that when you will go to register any
>of the above they will be all taken by a reseller. I've mentioned a few
>times on this list that one should do atomic buys (tm). If you check and
>don't buy in the same assembly opcode, someone else snoops on your search
>and will do it for you. The only way to get a domain nowadays is to
>check-buy atomically. I have enough examples of people who were
>burned. I've lost stas.com 2.5 years ago, because it took me 1 day to
>decide that I want to spend $$ on it, well it was taken the next day...

That's all too true. For certain Network Solutions have a service that
warns some people that have paid (a lot) when someone checks an address
that doesn't exist yet. They offered it to one of the companies I worked
for once so I know for sure. This doesn't mean that modperlnew will be
taken within hours but one should be very careful when using registrars'
whois/dns check tools. If you could want it, buy it immediately. Maybe some
registrars are not that kind of bandits, but it's hard to know. When the
revolution comes, we should probably hang most of those nic people ;)

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Subject: Re: Mod_perl tutorials
From: Stas Bekman <stas@stason.org>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:55:35 +0100 (CET)

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:

> I guess part of the problem is that PPT is a binary file so if someone 
> checks out of CVS, and modifies slide 3 and another person modifies slide 
> 1, there's really no way of piecing it together again without being annoyed 
> by CVS update.

POD or another text format is definitely a way to go if it's to be
released as OSS and expected to be maintained by the community.

You can use my hackish Pod::HtmlPsPdf, which tries hard to help generate
slides. The only caveat it has now, is that the html2ps tool that it uses
generates not 100% complete PS, so when I run ps2pdf everything is cool,
but acroread has no option to rotate slides by 90% , so I have to use
ghostview instead during my classes.

Of course you are welcome to send me patches that improve the slide mode
of this module.

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Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Mod_perl tutorials
From: Geoffrey Young <gyoung@laserlink.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:29:10 -0500

Original Message-----
> From: Robin Berjon [mailto:robin@knowscape.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 6:24 PM
> To: Stas Bekman
> Cc: Drew Taylor; mod_perl list
> Subject: [OT] Re: Mod_perl tutorials
> 
[snip]

> This doesn't mean that modperlnew will be
> taken within hours but one should be very careful when using 
> registrars'
> whois/dns check tools. If you could want it, buy it 
> immediately. Maybe some
> registrars are not that kind of bandits, but it's hard to 
> know. When the
> revolution comes, we should probably hang most of those nic people ;)

I didn't have that experience with dotster.com where it took me a few weeks
to make up my mind...  for what it's worth...

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