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Subject: Re: MOZILLA - where are you? From: Uncle Meat <kcsmart@worldinter.net> Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 23:45:31 -0600 On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 00:05:53 -0500 (EST) Statux <statux@bigfoot.com> wrote: > www.mozilla.org or whatever it is? or are you talking about a rewrite of > mozilla? > > Mozilla sucks, to be completely honest and so does netscape 6 (mozilla > is > actually netscape 5 written under open source licensing, which is why > there is no netscape 5). > > Mozilla has been around through most if not all of Netscape Navigator's > history. NS and Mozilla have been partners/cousins for a long time > (email > sent from netscape mail will mention mozilla in its headers too if you > look). > > I wish a nice group of programmers would give UNIX (Linux, etc) its own > web browser/email client/whatever suite to be proud of. This netscape > communism really sucks. > >:/ There are a few that look a little promising. Opera is getting better. It's commercial. Still needs work but, useable. Galeon is starting to look good. Still a little buggy, possibly because it's built on the mozilla engine. Even so, it's a lot less overhead than either AOL/Netscape or mozilla. Requires gnome installed, and relatively recent versions at that. Also requires one to keep updating mozilla and several gnome files to make newer, less-buggy versions work. I detest gnome and mozilla, but I want an alternative to the captivity we're in with the current only semi-bugproof graphic browser available, so I deal with it, grit my teeth and keep gnome up-to-date. Konqueror (KDE2) is better than the old kfm, though it could still use some work. The downside is, you have to have KDE installed even if it's the only konqueror is the only thing you use. The ending of the last paragraph also applies here in that I don't like KDE/bloatware but, I use an app or two and have to keep it recent to do so. I've tried a couple of others whose names escape me, one that also used mozilla as it's engine. I've even tried one that claimed to be separate from mozilla but, it required mozilla be installed and run before it would work: akin to all of the links my wife has been folowing on her MAC that claim to be freeware then mention the cost right on the download page. None of these unamed browsers were anything to write home about but, maybe a couple will progress to the point of looking hopeful in the future. === Subject: Re: MOZILLA - where are you? From: jbowling@direct.ca Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 23:39:54 -0800 On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 12:05:53AM -0500, Hal B. wrote: <snip> > We might have to do war over this ;) Mozilla is light years ahead of > NS in some respects. The pages look so much better. I only use NS when > Mozilla won't handle something (like Java since I have no luck getting > the Java plugin loaded). <snip> Hal - This is how I got my java to work in my Mozilla. Note the jre version. The nightly Mozilla builds rock. If they would get the java https stuff fixed, I wud be a happy camper. /usr/local/mozilla/package/plugins]# ls -l total 770 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2363 Dec 4 23:29 ShockwaveFlash.class -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 765852 Dec 4 23:29 libflashplayer.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 60 Dec 2 11:05 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/java/jre1.3.0_01/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so -rwxrwxr-x 1 8482 wheel 14008 Dec 15 08:26 libnullplugin.so (the link is all on one line, of course.) ===