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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 17:54:05 -0800 To: svlug@svlug.org From: Rafael <raffi@linwin.com> Subject: [svlug] Large number of spam comes from related sources I keep getting spam that can be traced back to the the same source: supported by qwest.net, grindbind.com, and registered at joker.com domain: beebeatwo.com status: production origin-c: borisb11209@yahoo.com#0 owner: Sajid Raza ... ------------------ domainstop.org [whois.joker.com] domain: domainstop.org status: production origin-c: tali987653@yahoo.com#0 owner: Taline Martin email: tali987653@yahoo.com#0 address: 893 W 14th Street city: NY state: NY postal-code: 10011 country: US admin-c: tali987653@yahoo.com#0 ... nserver: dv1.grindbind.com nserver: ns3.grindbind.com registrar: JORE-1 created: 2001-10-06 02:01:20 UTC JORE-1 modified: 2001-10-10 17:47:09 UTC JORE-1 expires: 2002-10-05 20:00:59 UTC source: joker.com ------------------ Domain Name: XEONWEB.NET Administrative Contact: Paul Xeon paul@xeonweb.net Xeon Web Services 21 Dorado El Paso, TX 31456 US Phone- 000-000-0000 Fax- Technical Contact: Paul Xeon paul@xeonweb.net Xeon Web Services 21 Dorado El Paso, TX 31456 US Phone- 000-000-0000 Fax- Those 000 are verbatim! All fake information. Few more can be seen at http://www.linwin.com/spam+scam/index.html I wonder why the registrars allow them to use yahoo email? My guess is they don't verify/care what the email of the registrant is. joker.com seem to be the worst and in over 90% of the spam related information I come across. It looks like somebody has a script that creates bogus businesses on the fly. It shouldn't be too hard to trace back the benefactors of the spam, real or virtual. I do not care about the lame arguments against this technique as some have argued about on this and other mailing lists in the past. I don't give a damn who or for what reason sent me URL for some pornosite. They should all be sent to Afghanistan while bombing is still going on! Some of the spam I get lately has IPs without a relation to a domain name. They think I going to do business with them using credit card. There is no company information on their website, phone numbers, address, etc. That's illegal business as far as I'm concerned and they should be shutdown or DOSed off the net entirely. It seems that many questionable business can be traced or are related somehow to the same network of bandits: Organization: Creative Marketing Zone, Inc. Technical Support 5393 Maplewood Detroit, MI 48204 US Phone: 313-231-2474 Email: grindbind@yahoo.com Registrar Name....: Register.com Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com Domain Name: GRINDBIND.COM Created on..............: Tue, Aug 14, 2001 Expires on..............: Thu, Aug 14, 2003 Record last updated on..: Wed, Oct 10, 2001 Administrative Contact: Creative Marketing Zone, Inc. Technical Support 5393 Maplewood Detroit, MI 48204 US Phone: 313-231-2474 Email: grindbind@yahoo.com Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Register.Com Domain Registrar 575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor New York, NY 10018 US Phone: 212-798-9200 Fax..: 212-629-9305 Email: domain-registrar@register.com Domain servers in listed order: NS1.GRINDBIND.COM 64.132.82.71 NS3.GRINDBIND.COM 65.160.45.60 NS4.GRINDBIND.COM 65.160.45.61 KO2.GRINDBIND.COM 24.178.61.20 KO1.GRINDBIND.COM 24.182.105.208 DV1.GRINDBIND.COM 4.60.111.133 NM2.GRINDBIND.COM 65.69.110.2 NM1.GRINDBIND.COM 65.69.110.1 DNS1.GRINDBIND.COM 208.178.236.187 DNS2.GRINDBIND.COM 208.178.236.188 NS2.GRINDBIND.COM 64.132.82.72 No honest business with a large number of (DNS) servers hides behind the grindbind@yahoo.com email! I wish ISPs would just block those networks at their entry points: http://www.spamhaus.org/top10.lasso A lot of spam is possible because of idiot sysadmins that setup email servers like http://www.linwin.com/spam+scan/2001-12/spammers-2001-12-12 with all kinds of ports open. It's my belief that system like that should be disabled remotely by anybody capable of doing so. Don't like that? Tough, it's a spam war out there and it's time we strike back from every server on the net. Of course it's possible that some of the open servers are part of the illegal operation which too should be DOSed as soon as they are discovered. I wish that feds with all the power they have to watch the net would track down this email terrorism and start cutting off spamming teleban's fingers. It's easy to find these f*ing bastards. Everybody knows who they are http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl-major.lasso If nothing else works, perhaps a visit from local "victims" is in order. Email needs a major overhaul. Email protocols we are using were created for use by honest people and on much smaller scale. The main problem I see is in the fact that email is treated like snail mail which makes fighting against spam more or less ineffective. A better protocol is needed otherwise we'll all drown in spam sewage. And last, to all spammers and other computerized idiots out there: I will never do business with any of you regardless of what you promote. Don't bother with telling me about your crap. I don't deal with loosers. I wonder what's the average number of spam crap users get in a week? ===