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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:14:19 -0700


Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:14:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Greg Herlein <gherlein@herlein.com>
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Subject: [svlug] Registrars?
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Well, Registrar.com got bought by Verisign, who has proven to be
a royal pain in the rear this week...  and since I am pondering
creating a new domain for a project, I'm curious who else is
still in the registrar market.

Can anyone recommend a good registrar?

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Date: 09 Aug 2002 13:19:52 -0700
From: Uriah Welcome <precision@devrandom.net>
To: Greg Herlein <gherlein@herlein.com>
Cc: svlug@lists.svlug.org
Subject: Re: [svlug] Registrars?

Greg Herlein wrote:

> Well, Registrar.com got bought by Verisign, who has proven to be
> a royal pain in the rear this week...  and since I am pondering
> creating a new domain for a project, I'm curious who else is
> still in the registrar market.
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good registrar?


I've been using GKG (http://www.gkg.net/) for some time now without a
problem.  I have friends that swear by them.. $10/year, can't go wrong.

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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:01:47 -0700
From: svlug@gory.org
To: Greg Herlein <gherlein@herlein.com>
Cc: svlug@lists.svlug.org
Subject: Re: [svlug] Registrars?

Greg Herlein <gherlein@herlein.com> wrote:

> Well, Registrar.com got bought by Verisign, who has proven to be
> a royal pain in the rear this week...  and since I am pondering
> creating a new domain for a project, I'm curious who else is
> still in the registrar market.
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good registrar?

https://www.godaddy.com

$8.95 a year.

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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:02:09 -0700
From: "Daevid Vincent" <daevid@daevid.com>
To: "'Greg Herlein'" <gherlein@herlein.com>, <svlug@lists.svlug.org>
Subject: RE: [svlug] Registrars?

> Can anyone recommend a good registrar?

http://www.register.com/

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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 21:03:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: ikluft@thunder.sbay.org (Ian Kluft)
To: gherlein@herlein.com (Greg Herlein)
Subject: Re: [svlug] Registrars?

>From: Greg Herlein <gherlein@herlein.com>
>Well, Registrar.com got bought by Verisign, who has proven to be
>a royal pain in the rear this week...  and since I am pondering
>creating a new domain for a project, I'm curious who else is
>still in the registrar market.
>
>Can anyone recommend a good registrar?

I moved all my domains from Verisign/NetSoil to Domain Discover.
I recently finished moving the last of them there.

I found them a couple years ago through a domain buyer's guide that
unfortunatley has since shut down.  They compared registrars based
on price, service, and registration agreements.

For example, with Verisign/NetSoil, you can register the domain.  But
they own it according to the agreement.  I decided that was an important
criteria to fix.  But it eliminated all the most inexpensive registrars
at the time.  I won't try to say that the one I found is the only good
one - undoubtedly there are others.  But those are the criteria you
should look at when selecting a registrar.

Domain Discover ( http://www.domaindiscover.com/ ) looked to me like one
of the best by the criteria...
* Almost everything can be done by self-service through their web interface
* Their web site behaves well with Mozilla and Netscape.  (No Windoze-only
  "feature" restrictions.)
* Good support - they stake their reputation on it (and I can confirm
  they're responsive for the few times I needed help)
* You own your domains according to their agreement
* The price is reasonable, a little less than Verisign/NetSoil.
* During a domain transfer, they tell you when things happen and status
  changes along the way.

One thing to watch for when transferring domains from Verisign/NetSoil is
that they'll send an e-mail to the domain's administrative contact asking
for confirmation.  Read it carefully because there's a response code
hidden deep inside the message that you must MANUALLY PASTE INTO THE SUBJECT
of your e-mail reply to them.  And the reply must have a From address which
matches their record of the admin contact.  Even once you comply with
that, they might reject the transfer claiming they never got a response
from the admin contact.  (I even had some cases that they never sent the
confirmation message and rejected it when they got no response.)  Re-initiate
the transfer and keep trying - it eventually works.  This almost seemed
intentional because all their delaying factors came into play at once when
I transferred thunder.com and thunder.net away from them, as if they wanted
to keep them.  It could be explained by incompetence but the conincidence
is suspicious.

It's a relief to be rid of Verisign/NetSoil.  I never want to do business
with them again.

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Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 23:44:59 -0700
From: J C Lawrence <claw@kanga.nu>
To: Uriah Welcome <precision@devrandom.net>
Cc: Greg Herlein <gherlein@herlein.com>, svlug@lists.svlug.org
Subject: Re: [svlug] Registrars? 

On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 13:14, Greg Herlein wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a good registrar?

I've been pleased with EasyDNS who sit atop OpenSRS.

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 02:29:23 -0700
From: Drew Bertola <drew@drewb.com>
To: svlug@lists.svlug.org
Subject: Re: [svlug] Registrars?

On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 11:44:59PM -0700, J C Lawrence wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 13:14, Greg Herlein wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone recommend a good registrar?
> 
> I've been pleased with EasyDNS who sit atop OpenSRS.

I like EasyDNS too, but they're not quite as cheap as some of the
others.  Last time I renewed a domain, they were at $25.00/yr.  Has it
gone down?

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:12:13 -0700
From: J C Lawrence <claw@kanga.nu>
To: svlug@lists.svlug.org
Subject: Re: [svlug] Registrars? 

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 02:29:23 -0700 
Drew Bertola <drew@drewb.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 11:44:59PM -0700, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 13:14, Greg Herlein wrote:

> I like EasyDNS too, but they're not quite as cheap as some of the
> others.  Last time I renewed a domain, they were at $25.00/yr.  Has it
> gone down?

Not that I've noticed (haven't checked).  Then again you get
considerably more for your $25 than you get from a straight registrar:

  -- Full DNS hosting
  -- Slick web interface to your zone files
  -- Unlimited web edits of your zone files
  -- Multiple globally distributed name servers
  -- Secondary MX service for any domains run thru EasyDNS

That's a bit better than just getting an entry in a gTLD root name
server.

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