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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:25:11 -0700 From: Marc MERLIN <marc_news@valinux.com> To: J C Lawrence <claw@kanga.nu>, svlug@svlug.org Cc: scott bakalor <scott@hijinks.com> Subject: Re: [svlug] sendmail help On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 10:15:19AM -0700, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 00:37:41 -0700 > Marc MERLIN <marc_news@valinux.com> wrote: > > > If you need to send mail, your mail client will run > > /usr/sbin/sendmail. > > Note that some MUAs, most notably MH and derivatives, deliver mail > by SMTP to port 25 on localhost. Not my fault if it's broken by default. May I recommend a selection of other fine MUAs? :-) On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 12:05:54PM -0400, Bill Jonas wrote: > On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 10:55:00AM -0700, Don Marti wrote: > > Fetchmail does delivery to localhost port 25, too. > > You can also use fetchmail without running an MTA. For that matter you should not have fetchmail deliver mail to your MTA. ESR is proud of having added that feature, but it's really stupid to have this as a default IMO. Not only does it cause bounces in some cases and some other obscure mail problems every so often, but it makes fetchmail incredibly slow because many MTAs do checks on mails that are submitted through port 25 (some of them like sendmail, lenghty DNS checks), and fetchmail being serialized, ends up taking a long time to deliver all those mails to your machine. You should use: mda "/usr/bin/procmail -d %T" Just for the story of the day, I had to help ESR with his fetchmail/sendmail configuration because he couldn't get his VA mail. His problem, outside of using sendmail with a broken DNS config, was that he had fetchmail deliver his mails to sendmail over port 25 instead of just calling procmail directly :-) ===