svlug-reading_pdf_files_without_adobe_software

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From: Romain Kang <romain@kzsu.stanford.edu>
Subject: [svlug] Anyone know a good "How to read PDF" page?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 14:24:44 -0700 (PDT)
To: svlug@lists.svlug.org

One of the guys on the website team is in the habit of putting in
the words "You must have Adobe Acrobat installed to view this file"
whereever there's a PDF link.  Of course this is untrue, but it's
also not reasonable to put the details right on the same page.

Before I attempt to write inclusive, vendor-neutral instructions
how to read PDFs in a manner that grandparents could follow, does
anyone know of a URL that has already done this?


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From: Anthony Ettinger <apwebdesign@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [svlug] Anyone know a good "How to read PDF" page?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:10:51 -0700 (PDT)
To: Romain Kang <romain@kzsu.stanford.edu>, svlug@lists.svlug.org

Romain Kang <romain@kzsu.stanford.edu> wrote:

> One of the guys on the website team is in the habit of
> putting in the words "You must have Adobe Acrobat
> installed to view this file" whereever there's a PDF link.
> Of course this is untrue, but it's also not reasonable to
> put the details right on the same page.
>
> Before I attempt to write inclusive, vendor-neutral
> instructions how to read PDFs in a manner that
> grandparents could follow, does anyone know of a URL that
> has already done this?

http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/help2.html

It's no different than opening a .doc file. You just
need to make sure the visitor has the right program.
Either adobe pdf or xpdf.

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From: Romain Kang <romain@kzsu.stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: [svlug] Anyone know a good "How to read PDF" page?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:49:56 -0700
To: svlug@lists.svlug.org

Anthony Ettinger wrote:

> http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/help2.html

Thanks, that's a good starting point.  On Mac OS X, of course,
the PDF-capable Preview app comes bundled.  So I see a matrix
that looks something like this:

			Adobe	xpdf	Bundled
FreeBSD x86		*	Y		Acroread under Linux x86 compat
Linux generic			Y	*	xpdf sometimes part of distro
Linux x86		Y	Y	*	xpdf sometimes part of distro
MS Windows PPC		Y
MS Windows desktop	Y		
Mac OS X		Y		Preview.app
PalmOS			Y		
Symbian			Y

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From: Anthony Ettinger <apwebdesign@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [svlug] Anyone know a good "How to read PDF" page?
Cc: 
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:34:31 -0700 (PDT)
To: Romain Kang <romain@kzsu.stanford.edu>, svlug@lists.svlug.org

Romain Kang <romain@kzsu.stanford.edu> wrote:

> Anthony Ettinger wrote:

> > http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/help2.html

> Thanks, that's a good starting point.  On Mac OS X, of course,
> the PDF-capable Preview app comes bundled.  So I see a matrix
> that looks something like this:

> 			Adobe	xpdf	Bundled
> FreeBSD x86		*	Y		Acroread under Linux x86 compat
> Linux generic			Y	*	xpdf sometimes part of distro
> Linux x86		Y	Y	*	xpdf sometimes part of distro
> MS Windows PPC		Y
> MS Windows desktop	Y		
> Mac OS X		Y		Preview.app
> PalmOS			Y		
> Symbian			Y

There is a precompiled binary of xpdf for dos/win32
http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/download.html

although adobe is sure to be better.

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From: Bill Kendrick <nbs@sonic.net>
Subject: Re: [svlug] Anyone know a good "How to read PDF" page?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:57:40 -0700
To: svlug@lists.svlug.org


Romain Kang wrote:

> 			Adobe	xpdf	Bundled
> FreeBSD x86		*	Y		Acroread under Linux x86 compat
> Linux generic			Y	*	xpdf sometimes part of distro
> Linux x86		Y	Y	*	xpdf sometimes part of distro
> MS Windows PPC		Y
> MS Windows desktop	Y		
> Mac OS X		Y		Preview.app
> PalmOS			Y		
> Symbian			Y

Heh, may as well point out that apparently Opera on the Zaurus can do PDF.
I haven't tested with Opera 7.3.

There's also QPDF, which can be found via http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/

Now, if only I had a real reason for PDF-on-the-go...  *shrug*
Maybe I should look into electronic books, or somethin'?

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From: Sanatan Rai <sanat@stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: [svlug] Anyone know a good "How to read PDF" page?
Cc: svlug@lists.svlug.org
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:04:04 -0700 (PDT)

: Now, if only I had a real reason for PDF-on-the-go...  *shrug*
: Maybe I should look into electronic books, or somethin'?

	The only real reason that I can think of, is of course
portability. It is not as portable as plain text, but for mathematical
documents, one can't beat PDFLaTeX. (Yes, it beats LaTeX + dvips, try
embedding a complicated mpost figure in the document.)

	On the other hand, you might want to stay away from e-Books. I
had, what I regarded as a bad experience, though it might well be normal
for someone used to e-Books.

	I bought this e-Book. I downloaded it onto my laptop running
Win2000. I later realised that I couldn't open that document on any
other machine, such as for instance, when I booted the laptop with
Linux. Eventually, when the Win partition crashed, I lost the book. I
did print the book out before hand, so all was not lost. Printing the
book out defeated the purpose of buying an e-Book. (Actually, I had
ordered the e-Book rather than the print edition because I didn't want
to wait for it to be delivered.)

	Needless to stay, I am going to stay away from e-Books. I wonder
very much if this kind of behaviour isn't in contravention of basic
consumer rights.

	My halfpenny bit.

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