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Subject: Webmin system administration utility From: kumar1@home.com (Prasanth A. Kumar) Date: 06 Jun 2000 18:19:00 -0700 I don't know if anyone has ever tried Webmin but I can say it is much more user friendly and less intrusive than Linuxconf. I think Redhat should seriously look at replacing Linuxconf with Webmin. I guess the most serious limitation to Webmin is that it runs over a browser, which can be a problem in text mode. But I think with a bit of tweaking of the generated pages, maybe it could run on Lynx? === Subject: Re: Webmin system administration utility From: teg@redhat.com (Trond Eivind=?iso-8859-1?q?_Glomsr=F8d?=) Date: 06 Jun 2000 22:10:06 -0400 kumar1@home.com (Prasanth A. Kumar) writes: > I don't know if anyone has ever tried Webmin but I can say it is much > more user friendly and less intrusive than Linuxconf. I think Redhat > should seriously look at replacing Linuxconf with Webmin. We have. > I guess the most serious limitation to Webmin is that it runs over a > browser, which can be a problem in text mode. One of them. === Subject: Re: Webmin system administration utility From: Alvin Starr <alvin@iplink.net> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 23:24:43 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Greg Wright wrote: > On 6/06/00 at 18:19 kumar1@home.com wrote: > > >I don't know if anyone has ever tried Webmin but I can say it is much > >more user friendly and less intrusive than Linuxconf. I think Redhat > >should seriously look at replacing Linuxconf with Webmin. I guess the > >most serious limitation to Webmin is that it runs over a browser, which > >can be a problem in text mode. But I think with a bit of tweaking of > >the generated pages, maybe it could run on Lynx? > > > Hi > > Webmin is good, much better at this point than Linuxconf (in as far as > problems administrating) , but I cannot see RH taking a rivals system and > using it, its not clear to me what the lic will be also once Caldera starts > steering the boat (if they ever do take over the coding). I second the motion for Webmin. I have started removing linuxconf from all my RH systems or at least disabling them. It is a real pain when your system will not reboot just because somebody ran linuxconf. Road trips to the computer room at odd hours make you really gun-shy. === Subject: Re: Webmin system administration utility From: Levente Farkas <lfarkas@mindmaker.hu> Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 05:32:22 +0200 (CEST) Quoting "Prasanth A. Kumar" <kumar1@home.com>: > > I don't know if anyone has ever tried Webmin but I can say it is much > more user friendly and less intrusive than Linuxconf. I think Redhat > should seriously look at replacing Linuxconf with Webmin. I guess the > most serious limitation to Webmin is that it runs over a browser, which > can be a problem in text mode. But I think with a bit of tweaking of > the generated pages, maybe it could run on Lynx? I'm the second on it (actualy I hate linuxconf), but it have to look thru, since there is 'strange' stuff in it (like if you restart apache from it, it change the REMOTE_USER on _all_ following page(!!!) to the webmin login name). === Subject: Re: Webmin system administration utility From: R P Herrold <herrold@owlriver.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 23:52:26 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Alvin Starr wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Greg Wright wrote: > > I second the motion for Webmin. I have started removing linuxconf from all > my RH systems or at least disabling them. It is a real pain when your > system will not reboot just because somebody ran linuxconf. Road trips to > the computer room at odd hours make you really gun-shy. I have to concur on the need to disable linuxconf -- it silently blew away 160 domain records (maintained using another tool) when a junior sysadmin who was just trying to install a new network card used it. <frown> Perhaps linuxconf would be OK with a more limited scope of change mechanism, or recognizing that it does not understand what it is encountering and issuing better advisories ... But so there is no misunderstanding, Webmin MUST be disabled when not in use, and MUST be configured to 'Not talk with strangers' -- Indeed, perhaps it should issue alerts into /var/log/messages, and to root [assuning that all root mail is directed off-host in /etc/aliases to a regular sysadmin's userid, as is our practice.] To "YELL when approached by strangers," so to speak. === Subject: Re: Webmin system administration utility From: kumar1@home.com (Prasanth A. Kumar) Date: 06 Jun 2000 21:02:29 -0700 "Greg Wright" <greg@ausit.com> writes: <snip> > Webmin is good, much better at this point than Linuxconf (in as far as > problems administrating) , but I cannot see RH taking a rivals system and > using it, its not clear to me what the lic will be also once Caldera starts > steering the boat (if they ever do take over the coding). > > Regards > > Greg Wright <snip> I seriously doubt that would be a consideration given that Webmin is opensource (BSD license) and contributed to by many work on a diverse variety of operating systems. It is no worse than other distributions basing themselves on RPMS! Also, Mandrake is using it in their upcoming release. However I'm not too concerned if Redhat has reservations to including it since I can uninstall Linuxconf and install Webmin in what 10 seconds... === Subject: Re: Webmin system administration utility From: Karsten Petersen <karsten.petersen@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:23:21 +0200 (CEST) On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Alvin Starr wrote: > I have started removing linuxconf from all my RH systems or at least > disabling them. It is a real pain when your system will not reboot > just because somebody ran linuxconf. Road trips to the computer room > at odd hours make you really gun-shy. linuxconf is like SuSE's yast: perhaps usable for newbies but a steady source of problems for the pros ... => rpm -e linuxconf kudzu on all our several hundert machines. (cfengine rulez ;) === Subject: Re: Webmin system administration utility From: Adrian Likins <alikins@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:41:54 -0400 On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 10:10:06PM -0400, Trond Eivind Glomsr