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                                                     June 30, 2016

                                        After listening to an
                                        interview with Dennis Dutton
                                        by Colin Marshall of "the
About the "Art Instinct"                Marketplace of Ideas"
by Dennis Dutton.

Dutton argues that esthetics are
a result of both nature and
nuture.  There are elements that
appear to be biologically               When the nature/nurture
rooted-- he claims there are            question comes up you might not
universals in taste in landscape        think it would be controversial
art and the preference for blue         to answer "both", but this was
and green colors.                       not apparently Dennis
                                        Dutton's experience.
His central point is that art
is not entirely "socially                         He complains that
constructed", but he's also                       he gets attacks from
at pains to make it clear                         people who presume he's
that he doesn't want to veer                      saying our artistic
to the opposite pole of                           tastes are entirely
cultural determinism-- he is                      natural, evolved
not a "reductionist": culture                     responses with no role
also matters.                                     for culture.

                                                  ARTS_OF_BIOLOGY_AND_CULTURE
He uses the example of Stravinsky's
"The Rite of Spring", which he
argues might not even have been           There's a sentence in the
recognized as music in earlier            introduction he regrets
historical periods.                       (I paraphrase):

                                            "A determination to shock
                                             and puzzle have taken the
                                             arts down the wrong path."

                                          He says that he meant art criticism,
There's a critique of                     and shouldn't have made it sound like
Schoernberg at the close                  he was dictating to artists. (?)
of the book, which goes                                                   
something like:                           The culturally conservative tend to
                                          make criticisms like that by reflex,
Music is about expectations, going        without thinking them through.
with or against.  "novelty and
fufillment" The problem with                   PINK_ART
Schoernberg's 12-tone is "it has
tone rows in places where you can't
predict what the next tone will be"

Building in principle on a structure           "Beehtoven and
of unpredictability will never be popular.     Schubert will
                                               always be more
He comments that "you can memorize what        popular than
the tone rows are"; which is to say you        Schoernberg."
can learn the new musical language
Schoernberg invented.

Like duh, right?


       Dutton claims a background in study of Indian
       Ragas as well as western symphonic music.

       Has he looked into musical ethnography *in general*?

       Has he considered that the musical scale is not
       universal across cultures?


                Getting back to the Stravinsky
                example: the "Rite of Spring"       I've seen a half-dozen
                is a well-respected, popular        recordings of different
                modern classic--                    performances of it
                                                    released on vinyl.
                Dutton concedes that it was
                once so strange it might not
                have seemed like music: so we
                can learn to appreciate new
                types of art as art.

                              Schoernberg's  attempts at
                              creating a new art form might
                              be regarded as a failure, in
                              some sense-- it doesn't mean
                              that all such attempts are
                              failures.


           His idea is to focus on
           canonical examples, and not
           edge cases like Duchamp's
           urinal.  Or Hirsch's shark in
           formaldehyde, etc.

           But then, sometimes a new
           thing becomes The New Thing.



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