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                                             December 10, 2006


     "The most persuasive piece of
     rhetoric yet unleashed in                SMEAR_THE_MESSENGER
     this conflict has been the
     daisy cutter bomb. It's the        This, from the
     only argument that much of         man who declared
     this clearly depraved culture      Robert Fisk "racist".
     actually respects."
                                           He also called
        -- Andrew Sullivan,                Paul Krugman "shrill".
           December 13, 2001

           [ref]    [ref]

                                             (Note: as of November 2008, you
                                             had to go back to the
But why would you expect                     web.archive.org for this.  Now,
a bomb to work any better                    in December 2013, that link has
than the 9/11 attack did                     stopped working, but it's up at
on the United States?                        theatlantic.com.  Legalities
                                             breaking the web?)
     Did that put the United
     States in a concillatory
     frame of mind?                    Ah, I think
                                       I've got it.

                                           They had in mind
                                           cases where
                                           bombing had "worked"
                                           (by some definition
                                           of "worked").

                                              E.g. Kosovo.

                                                   This brings to mind
                                                   some remarks by Freeman
                                                   Dyson on the difference in
                           So it's a matter        perception of the
                           of "fighting the        effectiveness of bombing
                           last war" again.        brought about by the
                                                   different experiences
                        Rather than, say,          that England and
                        trying to study            the United States
                        the problem, and           had with it during
                        determine under            World War II: arguably
                        what circumstances         it "worked" in the
                        an opponent is             Pacific theater and
                        likely to give-in          was nearly useless
                        after being subjected      in the European.
                        to bombardment.

                    And if you do
                    attempt to do
                    a study like
                    that, would
                    there be any
                    way to proceed
                    without trying       UNDERSTAND_JUSTICE
                    to understand
                    your enemy?


                                       My hypothesis:

                                       It is not the force
                                       of the explosions
                                       that brings about
                                       surrender, but the
                                       absence of a sense
                                       of moral force.

                                          The side that knows in
                                          their hearts that their
                                          cause is not just is
                                          the side that will lose.

                                              Which is why "realpolitk"
                                              is not realistic.
                MORAL_VALUED
                                                   Morality matters.




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