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                                             March 16, 2018
                                             March 25, 2018
A phrase I come back to often:
                                      
  "critical information                    
  infrastructure for democracy"...         
                   
                                               http://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/16/were-all-going-to-need-safe-spaces/
                                          
There was a discussion at crookedtimber
started by Henry Farrell which used the
occasion of a Twitter dispute with          There is arguably some reverse
Jonathan Chait to talk about the need to    spin going on here.  Henry Farrell
conduct triage on the clamor of voices      is far too classy a person to
on the net:                                 whine about being plonked,
                                            but he is willing to parade how
  "Even when people who want to argue       classy he is by magnanimously
  with you are entirely sincere, there      discussing the right to plonk.
  is a point at which you simply can't
  pay attention to everyone who wants            He also makes it clear that
  to talk at you on Twitter and still            he was rubbing Chait's nose
  function. You need to make choices."           in a gotcha of the type
                                                 "Forget what you said?  Let
  "We don't have any good intellectual           me help with a quote."
  basis that I know of for deciding
  the appropriate ways to allocate                  It could be Henry was being
  attention, since we've only started               unfair to Chait, but then,
  to have that problem in the very                  being fair to someone who
  recent past. We also don't have good              wants David Brooks' job is
  tools for muting the kinds of speech              not a high priority with me.
  that have been weaponized to
  undermine conversation, while                     The "how dare you take what
  preserving the kinds of speech that               I said seriously?" maneuver
  conduct towards this."                            seems all too familiar.

  Henry Farrell also remarked:                          Lee A. Arnold
                                                        remarked in passing:
  "I used to be very strongly in
  favor of anonymous free speech on                       "Hairsplitting with
  the Internet; I've had to                               words is NOT how to
  seriously rethink that"                                 think."

I responded something like this:                        He might've been
                                                        chiding Henry there...
    You could say "twas ever thus"
    and the internet just adds
    some new wrinkles: science,
    scholarship and politics has         Farrell's suggestion is that
    always been about different          the problem is worse now because
    kinds of "trust networks"--          speech is getting cheaper.
    all voices are not given equal
    weight. As a practical matter              I think it's a little more
    we need filters to screen out              subtle: our standards about who
    the less promising--                       we'll engage with have changed--
                                               we relaxed some barriers, and
    Myself, I think these filters              now we're considering raising
    need to leak: everyone needs               them again.
    to spend some small fraction
    of their time looking for
    truth in unlikely places.        Of course, someone taking Jonathan
                                     Chait pieces seriously is already
                                     toiling in barren ground.

    Like Henry Farrell, I've long since        ANON_SALVAGE
    given up on the utility of anonymous,
    free accounts-- clearly you need to
    know who the other person is for the
    filters to work effectively.

    Our present generation of "social network"
    sites may pay lip-service to verified
    identities, but the simple fact of the
    matter is they really need the traffic to
    sell eyeballs to advertisers: and so,            There might be some
    a typical ad-supported web site can't be         other types of
    relied on as critical information                for-profit sites (e.g
    infrastructure for democracy.                    the subscription model)
                                                     that are more workable.

    Swarms of hired shills are clearly a problem
    with the present-day web...  actually they've    I used to call them the
    been a problem for quite some time.              "Rover Boys" in, shall
                                                     we say, honor of Karl
    Note that while everyone is excited about        Rove:
    the Russian invasion just now, it doesn't
    get any nicer if the attack is coming from            THE_ROVERS
    a domestic source, like Hillary's hired
    Brock-puppets during the 2016 primary.                TEN_YEARS_LATER

    But there's still another difficulty:
    the left is attracted to the idea that
    money is the root of all evil, but there         BROCKPUPPETS
    really are other sources of evil. A
    brigade of volunteer fanatics can jam up
    a conversation just as well-- maybe better.






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