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                                              November 20, 2005


Quotations from
"The Art of Conversation"
by Michel De Montaigne,                  Page numbers are from
translated by M.A. Screech:              the Penguin 60s chapbook
                                         edition of "Four Essays".

   Studying books has a languid
   feeble motion, whereas
   conversation provides
   teaching and exercise all at
   once.  If I am sparring with
   a strong and solid opponent
   he will attack me on the
   flanks, stick his lance in me
   right and left; his ideas
   send mind soaring.  -- p35


   Rivalry, competitiveness and glory
   will drive me and raise me above
   my own level.  In conversation the
   most painful quality is perfect
   harmony. -- p.35


   Just as our mind is strengthened by contact
   with vigorous and well-ordered minds, so too
   it is impossible to overstate how much
   it loses and deteriorates by the continuous
   commerce and contact we have with mean
   and ailing ones.  -- p.35

  I love arguing and discussing, but with only
  a few men and for my own sake: for to serve
  as a spectacle to the great and indulge in
  a parade of your wits and verbiage is,
  I consider, an unbecoming trade for an
  honourable gentleman.     -- p.35

  Stupidity is a bad quality: but to be unable
  to put up with it, to be vexed and ground
  down by it (as happens to me) is another,
  hardly worse in its unmannerliness
  than stupidity.  -- p.35-36

  There is no idea so frivolous or odd
  which does not appear to me to be fittingly
  produced by the mind of man.  Those of us
  who deprive our judgment of the right to
  pass sentence look gently on strange
  opinions; we may not lend them our approbation
  but we do readily lend them our ears.
     -- p. 36

  Among gentlemen I like people to express
  themselves heartily, their words following
  wherever their thoughts lead.  We
  ought to toughen and fortify our ears
  against being seduced by the sound of
  polite words.  I like a strong,
  intimate, manly fellowship, the kind of
  friendship which rejoices in sharp
  vigorous exchanges just as love rejoices
  in bites and scratches which draw blood.
     -- p. 37


  It is impossible to argue in good faith
  with a fool.      -- p. 40


  In debating we are taught merely how to refute
  arguments; the result of each side's refuting the
  other is that the fruit of our debates is the
  destruction and annihilation of the truth.
  That is why Plato in his _Republic_ prohibits
  the exercise to ill-endowed minds not suited
  to it.    -- p. 41


  You are in quest of what *is*.  Why on earth do you
  set out to walk that road with a man who has
  neither pace nor style?  -- p. 41


  One fastens on a word or a comparison; another
  no longer sees his opponent's arguments,
  being too caught up in his own train of thought:
  he is thinking of pursuing his own argument not
  yours.   -- p. 42

  Lastly, there is the man who cannot see reason but
  holds you under siege within a hedge of dialectical
  conclusions and logical formulae.  Who can avoid
  beginning to distrust our professional skills and
  doubt whether we can extract from them any solid
  profit of practical use in life when he reflects on
  the use we put them to?  '_Nihil sanantibus
  litteris_.'  [such erudition as has no power to heal.]
  ((Seneca, _Epist. moral. LIX)) Has anyone ever
  acquired intelligence through logic? Where are her
  beautiful promises?  '_Nec ad melius vivendum nec ad
  commodius disserendum_.'  [She teaches neither how to
  live a better life nor how to argue properly.]
  ((Cicero, _De finibus, I, xix, 63)) Is there more of
  of a hotchpotch in the cackle of fishwives than in the
  public disputations of men who profess logic?  I would
  prefer a son of mine to learn to talk in the tavern
  rather than in our university yap-shops.  -- p. 42


  The involved linguistic convolutions with which they
  confound us remind me of conjuring tricks:  their
  sleight-of-hand has compelling force over our senses
  but it in no wise shakes our convictions.  -- p. 44


  In my part of the country and during my own lifetime
  school-learning has brought amendment of purse but
  rarely amendment of soul.  -- p. 44

  Erudition is a thing the quality of which is
  neither good or bad, almost: it is a most useful
  adjunct to a well-endowed soul: to any other it is
  baleful and harmful; or rather, it is a thing
  which, in use, has great value, but it will
  not allow itself to be acquired at a base price: in
  one hand it is a royal sceptre, in another, a fool's
  bauble.  -- p. 44


  For we are born to go in quest of truth:
  to take possession of it is the property of
  a greater Power.  ((the theme of III "on experience"))
    -- p. 45

  This world is but a school of inquiry.  The
  question is not who will spear the ring but who
  will make the best charges at it. -- p. 46



  ... there is in truth no greater silliness, none
  more enduring, than to be provoked and enraged by
  the silliness of this world ...  p.47


  ... why can we encounter a man with a twisted
  deformed body without getting irritated, yet are
  unable to tolerate a deranged mind without
  flying into a rage?  ((Plutarch ...))  --p.48


  It is not merely the reproaches which we make to
  each other which can be regularly turned against us
  but also our reasons and our arguments in matters
  of controversy: we run ourselves through with our
  own swords. As it was ingeniously and aptly put by
  the man who first said it: '_Stercus cuique suum
  bene olet_' [Everyone's shit smells good to
  himself.]  ((Erasmus, _Adages_, III, IV, II ...))
       -- p. 49


  If we had sound nostrils our shit ought to stink all
  the more for its being our own.  -- p. 51


  Sometimes my mind launches out with paradoxes
  which I mistrust and verbal subtleties which make
  me shake my head; but I let them take their chance.
  I know that some men make a reputation from such things.
  It is not for me alone to judge them.  -- p. 56

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