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                                    October  21, 2007 
                                    December 10, 2007         

Pragmatists preach "utility
is the test of truth".          Really? So Bertrand Russell
                                says, anyway...
My guess: this is just
another way of pushing                 (In "Philosophy in the
the problem around.                    Twentieth Century", p.265
                                       of "the Basic Writings"
                                       (trade pbk).
                                              
Russell's point: the con                     BASIC_RUSSELL
is useful to the con artist.

The pragmatist presumably has
other ideas about "useful to who?"       And maybe useful "how?"
                                         and probably (perhaps
   I would presume they're               critically for me) "when?"
   thinking about utility to
   mankind (i.e. they're                    The amphetamine is useful
   "consequentialists").                    for the speed freak, but
                                            only for a limited time.

   And indeed:                                      Once again, it's the
                                                    long run/short run
   "The pragmatist may say, in reply                distinction.
   that the success which is a test of
   truth is social, not individual: a               (and I sincerely
   belief is 'true' when the success of             hope that's not a
   the human race is helped by the                  football analogy).
   existance of the belief."

       Bertrand Russell, "Dewey's New Logic"
       p. 203 of the "Basic Writings"



Bertrand Russell attributes to Dewey's
pragmatism a problem similar to what
I've been wrestling with:

How do you evaluate a philosophy
based on it's long term widespread
effects on humanity?


Russell objects to Dewey's "logic"
on very logical grounds -- but could
it be he's being obtuse?

Dewey can't ground moral reasoning in
Truth-- but than neither can anyone
else, Russell included, right?
So, Dewey tries to avoid the word.

But Russell resorts to extreme cases,
e.g. he invokes a desire for suicide       
to disprove that "truth is that which      Or, as I prefer,  
achieves desire".                          "Whatever works, baby."


Does the point hold for less extreme
conditions?  If we must live without
universals, then we must be cautious        I think there's an analogy
with these extremes.                        to curve-fitting here-- if
                                            it's solely an empirical
   If moral principle is                    relation, then you don't
   not application of                       extrapolate far beyond the
   physics and math (or                     region of observation.
   perhaps evolutionary
   biology), then is it                         If you have some
   legalistic?                                  reason for expecting
                                                a curve of a given
   A "reasonable man"                           shape, then you can
   standard would also                          use that to range farther.
   not stand up to
   Russell's scrutiny.                             Without the true curve,
   Can we get by without?                          you must step carefully.


       "How am I to know the consequences of believing
       that I had coffee for breakfast?  If I say 'the
       consequences are such-and-such', this in turn
       will have to be tested by its consequences
       before I can know whther what I have said was a
       'good' or a 'bad' statement.  And even if this
       difficulty were overcome, how am I to judge
       which set of consequences is the more
       satisfactory?  One decision as to whether I had
       coffee may fill me with contentment, the other
       with determination to further the war effort.
       Each of these may be considered good, but until
       I have decided which is better I cannot tell
       whether I had coffee for breakfast.  Surely this
       is absurd."

                        Bertrand Russell,
                        "John Dewey", p.212 of
                        "The Basic Writings"



  The kind of subjects
  Dewey was interested in
  inquiring into were most     JUDGE_TASTE
  certainly not Russell's
  breakfest.

                                     Is the difficulty of
                                     comprehending social
                                     effects an argument
                                     against their importance?

And I think that Russell
makes a presumption that
all truth must be one, but
that begs the question.


          Note that he changes tack
          and argues for objective
          truth on the grounds of
          the social dangers of the
          contrary:

                                  "The concept of 'truth' as something
                                  dependent upon facts largely outside
                                  human control has been one of the
                                  ways in which philosophy hitherto
                                  has inculcated the necessary element
                                  of humility.  When this check upon
                                  pride is removed, a further step is
                                  taken on the road towards a certain
   CONSEQUENCES                   kind of madness-- the intoxication
                                  of power which invaded philosophy
                                  with Fichte, and to which modern
                                  men, whether philosphers or not, are
                                  prone.  I am persuaded that this
                                  intoxication is the greatest danger
                                  of our time, and that any philosophy
                                  which, however unintentionally,
                                  contributes to it is increasing the
                                  danger of cast social disaster."

                                     -- Bertrand Russell, "John Dewey",
                                        p. 214 of "Basic Writings",
                                        originally from "A History of
                                        Western Philosophy" (1946)


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