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Subject: Re: RH6.0 Netscape core dumps
From: Jan Carlson <janc@iname.com>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:31:03 -0400
Vidiot wrote:
>
> What is the deal with the Netscape that is distributed with RH6.0? I go to
> a web site that has Java and it says that it is starting Java and then core dumps
> each and every time that I go there.
>
> I am currently downloading version 4.6 from Netscape's site. Hopefully it will
> work.
The UNSUPPORTED 4.6 version is better. Avoid the SUPPORTED one.
If your new or old version of Netscape was a TAR package, be sure to
remove the old version, manually if necessary, especially its Java
files.
Don't use the SUPPORTED (libc5) Netscape from Netscape's sites with
Red Hat 5.0 or later.
The UNSUPPORTED version is much better than the SUPPORTED version.
I didn't say it backwards - use the UNSUPPORTED version.
Hopefully Netscape will fix their terminology eventually.
===
Subject: Re: please help with netscape + java !!
From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" <scoile@redhat.com>
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:42:09 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 31 May 1999 philippe@enit.fr wrote:
[...]
> Each time netscape starts Java, it crashes with the deadly 'bus error'.
>
> Pretty new behavior with RH 6.0 fresh install . Pentium II , 128 m.
First, install the Netscape Communicator 4.6 RPMs available from
ftp://updates.redhat.com. Then, apply the fix described in the Red
Hat FAQ:
http://www.redhat.com/cgi-bin/support?faq
(currently FAQ #1)
===
Subject: Re: RPM doesn't do as it is told.
From: Jan Carlson <janc@iname.com>
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:22:41 -0400
No, --force and --nodeps are not required!
Just get all three new netscape rpms together and type
rpm -Uvh netscape*4.6*.rpm
That satisfies all the dependencies, no matter what
combination of older netscape rpms you have installed.
===
Subject: Re: netscape again -new question
From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" <scoile@redhat.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:04:47 -0400 (EDT)
On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, marnie ann joyce wrote:
>i would prefer to have navigator only and not the whole communicator. can
>i uninstall communicator and upgrade the common to 4.6 and install the
>navigator 4.6 without installing communicator?
Sure! Alternatives:
rpm -Uvh netscape-*-4.6-1.i386.rpm
rpm -e netscape-communicator-4.6-1.i386.rpm
or:
rpm -e --nodeps netscape-communicator-4.6-1.i386.rpm
rpm -Uvh netscape-{common,navigator}-4.6-1.i386.rpm
===
Subject: netscape-4.61-2
From: Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:38:11 -0500
netscape-4.61-2.src.rpm 24883540
netscape-common-4.61-2.i386.rpm 4710074
netscape-communicator-4.61-2.i386.rpm 5743469
netscape-navigator-4.61-2.i386.rpm 3148919
These files are available at the following site
ftp://ftp.falsehope.com/custom/Netscape
RPMs are built with rpm version 3.0.1.
RPMs are built on a Pentium 200mmx w/256megs RAM with
RedHat 5.2 plus updates from ftp://updates.redhat.com installed.
Required programs to install shared binary rpm.
Programs listed are either updates or are
not in the default RedHat 5.2 installation.
Name : netscape-common Relocations: /usr
Version : 4.61 Vendor: Netscape
Release : 2 Build Date: Tue Jun 22 10:15:55 1999
Install date: Tue Jun 22 11:35:07 1999 Build Host: desktop.infohwy.com
Group : Applications/Internet Source RPM: netscape-4.61-2.src.rpm
Size : 7084695 License: Commercial
Distribution: Falsehope Custom RPMs
Packager : Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
URL : http://www.netscape.com
Summary : Files shared by the Netscape Navigator and Communicator.
Description :
This package contains the files that are shared between the
Netscape Navigator Web browser and the Netscape Communicator
suite of tools (the Navigator Web browser, an e-mail client,
a news reader and Web page editor).
Install the netscape-common package if you're installing the
netscape-navigator and/or the netscape-communicator
program.
Requires:
-----------------------------------------------------
Standard Red Hat 5.2 installation
-----------------------------------------------------
Name : netscape-communicator Relocations: /usr
Version : 4.61 Vendor: Netscape
Release : 2 Build Date: Tue Jun 22 10:15:55 1999
Install date: Tue Jun 22 11:35:23 1999 Build Host: desktop.infohwy.com
Group : Applications/Internet Source RPM: netscape-4.61-2.src.rpm
Size : 13858530 License: Commercial
Distribution: Falsehope Custom RPMs
Packager : Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
URL : http://www.netscape.com
Summary : Netscape tools, including a Web browser, news reader and e-mail client.
Description :
Netscape Communicator is the industry-leading Web browser. It supports
the latest HTML standards, Java, JavaScript and some style sheets.
It also includes a full-featured Usenet news reader as well as a
complete e-mail client.
Information on the Netscape Communicator license may be fund in
the file /usr/doc/netscape-common-4.61/LICENSE.
Requires:
-----------------------------------------------------
Package Distribution
=====================================================
netscape-common-4.61-2 Falsehope Custom RPMs
-----------------------------------------------------
Name : netscape-navigator Relocations: /usr
Version : 4.61 Vendor: Netscape
Release : 2 Build Date: Tue Jun 22 10:15:55 1999
Install date: Tue Jun 22 11:35:32 1999 Build Host: desktop.infohwy.com
Group : Applications/Internet Source RPM: netscape-4.61-2.src.rpm
Size : 7425689 License: Commercial
Distribution: Falsehope Custom RPMs
Packager : Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
URL : http://www.netscape.com
Summary : The Netscape Navigator Web browser.
Description :
Netscape Navigator is the industry-leading Web browser. It supports
the latest HTML standards, Java, JavaScript and some style sheets.
Information on the Netscape Navigator license may be found in the file
/usr/doc/netscape-common-4.61/LICENSE.
This will install the basic Netscape Navigator Web browser.
If you want additional features, such as the Usenet news reader and
HTML editor, you should install the netscape-communicator package.
Requires:
-----------------------------------------------------
Package Distribution
=====================================================
netscape-common-4.61-2 Falsehope Custom RPMs
-----------------------------------------------------
%CHANGELOG
* Tue Jun 22 1999 Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
[netscape-4.61-2]
- Fixed calling of pidof in wrapper script. (needed full path)
- Fixed permissions of the /usr/share/icons/* files.
- Installing some kde lnk files in
/opt/kde/share/applnk/Internet/Communicator
- Installing Netscape.ad to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Netscape
instead of making it a symlink to /usr/lib/netscape/Netscape.ad so
a different prefix wont destroy the link.
* Tue Jun 15 1999 Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
- Updated to version 4.61.
* Wed May 26 1999 Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
- Adding Netscape.ad_19990514_4.6, netscape-icons_19990504 and
netscape-wrapper_2.1.1 to RPM.
These are from Dave Cinege <dcinege@psychosis.com>
and can be found at ftp://ftp.psychosis.com/netscape/
- Modifying netscape-wrapper to determine whether to run navigator
or communicator on the fly like original wrapper did.
- Including /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Netscape as well.
PGP Key can be found at ftp://ftp.falsehope.com/pub/Ryan_Weaver.pgp.key
===
Subject: netscape-4.61-3
From: Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:16:39 -0500
netscape-4.61-3.src.rpm 29083909
netscape-common-4.61-3.i386.rpm 4710401
netscape-communicator-4.61-3.i386.rpm 5743791
netscape-navigator-4.61-3.i386.rpm 3149238
netscape-calendar-4.61-3.i386.rpm 4161910
These files are available at the following site
ftp://ftp.falsehope.com/custom/Netscape
RPMs are built with rpm version 3.0.1.
RPMs are built on a Pentium 200mmx w/256megs RAM with
RedHat 5.2 plus updates from ftp://updates.redhat.com installed.
Required programs to install shared binary rpm.
Programs listed are either updates or are
not in the default RedHat 5.2 installation.
Name : netscape-common Relocations: /usr
Version : 4.61 Vendor: Netscape
Release : 3 Build Date: Wed Jun 23 10:46:42 1999
Install date: Wed Jun 23 11:10:27 1999 Build Host: desktop.infohwy.com
Group : Applications/Internet Source RPM: netscape-4.61-3.src.rpm
Size : 7084695 License: Commercial
Distribution: Falsehope Custom RPMs
Packager : Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
URL : http://www.netscape.com
Summary : Files shared by the Netscape Navigator and Communicator.
Description :
This package contains the files that are shared between the
Netscape Navigator Web browser and the Netscape Communicator
suite of tools (the Navigator Web browser, an e-mail client,
a news reader and Web page editor).
Install the netscape-common package if you're installing the
netscape-navigator and/or the netscape-communicator
program.
Requires:
-----------------------------------------------------
Standard Red Hat 5.2 installation
-----------------------------------------------------
Name : netscape-communicator Relocations: /usr
Version : 4.61 Vendor: Netscape
Release : 3 Build Date: Wed Jun 23 10:46:42 1999
Install date: Wed Jun 23 11:10:45 1999 Build Host: desktop.infohwy.com
Group : Applications/Internet Source RPM: netscape-4.61-3.src.rpm
Size : 13858530 License: Commercial
Distribution: Falsehope Custom RPMs
Packager : Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
URL : http://www.netscape.com
Summary : Netscape tools, including a Web browser, news reader and e-mail client.
Description :
Netscape Communicator is the industry-leading Web browser. It supports
the latest HTML standards, Java, JavaScript and some style sheets.
It also includes a full-featured Usenet news reader as well as a
complete e-mail client.
Information on the Netscape Communicator license may be fund in
the file /usr/doc/netscape-common-4.61/LICENSE.
Requires:
-----------------------------------------------------
Package Distribution
=====================================================
netscape-common-4.61-3 Falsehope Custom RPMs
-----------------------------------------------------
Name : netscape-navigator Relocations: /usr
Version : 4.61 Vendor: Netscape
Release : 3 Build Date: Wed Jun 23 10:46:42 1999
Install date: Wed Jun 23 11:10:54 1999 Build Host: desktop.infohwy.com
Group : Applications/Internet Source RPM: netscape-4.61-3.src.rpm
Size : 7425689 License: Commercial
Distribution: Falsehope Custom RPMs
Packager : Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
URL : http://www.netscape.com
Summary : The Netscape Navigator Web browser.
Description :
Netscape Navigator is the industry-leading Web browser. It supports
the latest HTML standards, Java, JavaScript and some style sheets.
Information on the Netscape Navigator license may be found in the file
/usr/doc/netscape-common-4.61/LICENSE.
This will install the basic Netscape Navigator Web browser.
If you want additional features, such as the Usenet news reader and
HTML editor, you should install the netscape-communicator package.
Requires:
-----------------------------------------------------
Package Distribution
=====================================================
netscape-common-4.61-3 Falsehope Custom RPMs
-----------------------------------------------------
Name : netscape-calendar Relocations: /usr
Version : 4.61 Vendor: Netscape
Release : 3 Build Date: Wed Jun 23 10:46:42 1999
Install date: Wed Jun 23 11:10:15 1999 Build Host: desktop.infohwy.com
Group : Applications/Internet Source RPM: netscape-4.61-3.src.rpm
Size : 14654856 License: Commercial
Distribution: Falsehope Custom RPMs
Packager : Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
URL : http://www.netscape.com
Summary : Netscape Calendar.
Description :
Pairing Netscape Calendar with Netscape Calendar Server provides an
easy-to-use enterprise group scheduling solution. Users can easily manage
their time, events, and to-do lists. Calendar offers high-performance,
real-time scheduling, ensuring that users have access to up-to-the-minute
information about the availability of people and resources. IT administrators
can easily integrate Calendar with a single corporate directory server.
Seamless integration with other standards-based calendar applications lets
users schedule meetings with others across the Internet.
Information on the Netscape Calendar license may be found in the file
/usr/doc/netscape-common-4.61/LICENSE.
This will install the basic Netscape Calendar and it's plugin.
Requires:
-----------------------------------------------------
Package Distribution
=====================================================
netscape-common-4.61-3 Falsehope Custom RPMs
-----------------------------------------------------
%CHANGELOG
* Wed Jun 23 1999 Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
[netscape-4.61-3]
- Updated to Netscape.ad_19990514_4.61 from Dave Cinege <dcinege@psychosis.com>
which can be found at ftp://ftp.psychosis.com/netscape
- Added the Netscape Calendar sub package. This comes with the calendar
program, its help program and a plugins for netscape.
* Tue Jun 22 1999 Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
[netscape-4.61-2]
- Fixed calling of pidof in wrapper script. (needed full path)
- Fixed permissions of the /usr/share/icons/* files.
- Installing some kde lnk files in
/opt/kde/share/applnk/Internet/Communicator
- Installing Netscape.ad to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Netscape
instead of making it a symlink to /usr/lib/netscape/Netscape.ad so
a different prefix wont destroy the link.
* Tue Jun 15 1999 Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
- Updated to version 4.61.
* Wed May 26 1999 Ryan Weaver <ryanw@infohwy.com>
- Adding Netscape.ad_19990514_4.6, netscape-icons_19990504 and
netscape-wrapper_2.1.1 to RPM.
These are from Dave Cinege <dcinege@psychosis.com>
and can be found at ftp://ftp.psychosis.com/netscape/
- Modifying netscape-wrapper to determine whether to run navigator
or communicator on the fly like original wrapper did.
- Including /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Netscape as well.
PGP Key can be found at ftp://ftp.falsehope.com/pub/Ryan_Weaver.pgp.key
===
Subject: netscape 4.61 dies when I go to java.sun.com
From: "M. Smith" <smithm@mvp.net>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:38:15 -0500
>> OK, so I upgraded to 4.61 -- same SUB error. Does it happen for
>> others too?
>Have you tried the font fix: www.redhat.com/support FAQ #1?
To save time for all, the fix is as follows:
Use the command: chkfontpath --list
See if the following path is present:
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
If not, add it in the following manner:
chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
This fixed the problem immediately for me.
===
Subject: Re: netscape-4.61-2
From: Jan Carlson <janc@iname.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:12:15 -0400
Ryan Weaver wrote:
>
> netscape-4.61-2.src.rpm 24883540
> netscape-common-4.61-2.i386.rpm 4710074
> netscape-communicator-4.61-2.i386.rpm 5743469
> netscape-navigator-4.61-2.i386.rpm 3148919
>
> These files are available at the following site
> ftp://ftp.falsehope.com/custom/Netscape
>
> RPMs are built with rpm version 3.0.1.
>
Thank you for making these Netscape rpms. This has raised
some questions in my mind. Can you help?
How is NS 4.61-2 different from NS 4.61-1?
Why do you use rpm version 3.0.1 instead of stock rpm-3.0-6.0 from RH6?
Where can I get rpm 3.0.1, assuming it is ok for general use on rh6?
===
Subject: Re: Netscape Navigator is a Linux Primadonna
From: Nathan Myers <ncm@best.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT)
> So, I've been using Netscape on Linux for a couple of years now, and
> it just dawned on me today that it is the only application I've got on
> my system that causes me frequent grief.
>
> I probably kill a frozen Netscape process 2-4 times a day. If there's
> a Java applet on a page, or weird JavaScript, or WHATEVER, Netscape
> just stops responding to input, then stops repaint, etc. It's SUCKY.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions for keeping Netscape happy?
Easy. Turn off all that dreck. Turn off everything in the "Advanced"
page, and also dynamic fonts. Also, never use the mail functions, or
news functions, or page composition. Given such precautions, Release
4.61 never crashes or hangs, any more, unless I let it run out of swap
space. (It is now at 143M, so it is approaching time to restart it.)
Proprietary software is that way.
===
From: Dale Lovelace <dale@redhat.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:41:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Kill Netscape
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Michael Starnes <mstarnes99@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Sorry to ask this because I've seen the answer before
> but didn't save it.
>
> Sometimes Netscape has a problem and I want to close
> it and start a new session. In X it appears to close
> but both "top" and "ps" show that it's still running.
> I try killing the pid numbers but that doesn't work.
> What can I do other than reboot the system?
Try:
killall -9 netscape-communicator
if you're running communicator or
killall -9 netscape-navigator
if you're running navigator. Note this generally leaves a lock file in your ~/.netscape directory, so you'll need to
rm -f ~/.netscape/lock
to clear it up totally.
===
Subject: Re: netscape toolbars
From: Jan Carlson <janc@iname.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:04:18 -0400
lloy0076 wrote:
>
> Meghan Madel wrote:
> > Hello, I have a user on a terminal who is not able to
> > view the toolbars in netscape. The menu options under
> > View are not working. There are no little arrows on the
> > left that would allow you to click and the toolbar would
> > come down. I am using Redhat 6.0 gnome. I have run
> > found many little quirks similar to this. Has anyone
> > seen this before and have any suggestions?
Upgrade to the Netscape 4.7-1.1 rpms from any Red Hat updates mirror.
The tool bars work as they should, and it hasn't had one problem in
a week for me.
===
Subject: Re: Broken PPP daemon
From: John Summerfield <summer@OS2.ami.com.au>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 08:10:38 +0800
> > > not to mention the crashes of netscape, which now crashes almost every 5m
> in.
> >
> > Try turning java off; I went through three versions of netscape (to 4.7)
> > trying to access www.sanford.com.au before thinking of that. It worked for
> > that site.
>
> Try this one. It works around some problems with the sun java stuff in
> netscape
>
> chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
Doubting thomas here:
[root@possum summer]# /usr/sbin/chkfontpath --list
Current directories in font path:
1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
[root@possum summer]# /usr/sbin/chkfontpath --add
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
[root@possum summer]# /usr/sbin/chkfontpath --list
Current directories in font path:
1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
[root@possum summer]#
Is that a useful change?
===
Subject: Re: Broken PPP daemon
From: Hal Burgiss <hburgiss@bellsouth.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:32:12 -0400
On Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 08:10:38AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> > > > not to mention the crashes of netscape, which now crashes almost every 5m
> > in.
> > >
> > > Try turning java off; I went through three versions of netscape (to 4.7)
> > > trying to access www.sanford.com.au before thinking of that. It worked for
> > > that site.
> >
> > Try this one. It works around some problems with the sun java stuff in
> > netscape
> >
> > chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
>
> Doubting thomas here:
> [root@possum summer]# /usr/sbin/chkfontpath --list
> Current directories in font path:
> 1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
> 2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
> 3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
> 4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
> 5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
> 6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
> [root@possum summer]# /usr/sbin/chkfontpath --add
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
> [root@possum summer]# /usr/sbin/chkfontpath --list
> Current directories in font path:
> 1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
> 2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
> 3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
> 4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
> 5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
> 6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
> 7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
> [root@possum summer]#
>
> Is that a useful change?
According to http://www.redhat.com/cgi-bin/support?faq #1, your
before and afters are identical to the example given for solving (at
least some) java problems.
===
Subject: Re: Broken PPP daemon
From: Rod May <redhat@rod.net>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 10:32:07 +1000 (EST)
On 29-Oct-99 Alan Cox wrote:
>> > not to mention the crashes of netscape, which now crashes almost every
>> > 5min.
>>
>> Try turning java off; I went through three versions of netscape (to 4.7)
>> trying to access www.sanford.com.au before thinking of that. It worked
>> for
>> that site.
>
> Try this one. It works around some problems with the sun java stuff in
> netscape
> chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
I also had long term netscape probs with RH 5.x and various versions
of netscape and javascript sites. Disabling javascript would
stop all the random crashes, but equates to cutting off your own nose. :)
I eventually found a subliminal reference in their general unix issues...
If you have a 'Helper Application' entry for type x-javascript and it is
set to 'Save to Disk' or 'Prompt User'... it can cause problems.
I just deleted the whole x-javascript entry and all probs disappeared.
This tip has worked for many people with the same results.
It must have been inserted during some pattern of the installs of different
netscapes 4.0x 4.5x 4.6x etc under various RedHats that we all did.
====
Subject: Re: Broken PPP daemon
From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 00:46:18 +0100 (BST)
> > not to mention the crashes of netscape, which now crashes almost every 5min.
>
> Try turning java off; I went through three versions of netscape (to 4.7)
> trying to access www.sanford.com.au before thinking of that. It worked for
> that site.
Try this one. It works around some problems with the sun java stuff in
netscape
chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
===
Subject: Re: Broken PPP daemon
From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:06:20 +0100 (BST)
> The sceptic started netscape. It's default home page is min, here, no java.
>
> Clicekd Edit/Preferences
> Searched for and clicked "enable java"
> Goodbye netscape.
Works for me. Ah well
> Next trick?
www.mozilla.org 8) And yes right now I'm finding it more stable, tho its
certainly incomplete on stuff like preferences.
===