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                                             Sept 25, 2006 (raw material)
                                             June 27, 2007

And here's a nightmare scenario for you:
wikipedia continues to increase in
popularity, to the point where it's
actually politically significant what
gets said in wikipedia articles. A Karl
Rove-type hires 100 people and tells them
to each get five wikipedia accounts, and
develop reputations as responsible
contributors. A year later, he's got 500
accounts he can play with to do spin
control.

Variation: substitute slashdot
for wikipedia. The 500 accounts
all mod each other up.

Conclusion: anonymity is only good for
toy sites; it's not for serious use.          Note though, that
                                              "anonymity" has
                                              many meanings on
Part of the problem:                          the web:
the "social network"
sites are *happy* to be                          A logged-in handle is
toys.                                            better than nothing,
                                                 but it doesn't mean
They have no ambition                            the speaker is not
to become anything more                          anonyomous.
serious than that.

Are they, or are they
not, a new hope for       "Bloggers" are full of
democracy?                pretension about such
                          things, but light on
                          follow-through.
  There are some
  funny obsessions
  going around that
  all but misses the
  real problems...

  The major media keeps
  trumpeting cases where                And this, unfortunately
  wikipedia's accuracy                  seems to be driving
  is weak:                              wikipedia's understanding
                                        of itself: they feel the
    Wikipedia isn't                     need to *respond* to
    *reliable*, because                 these complaints, instead
    you have no way of                  of going it's own way.
    knowing if it was
    written by an
    authority!

      Of course wikipedia
      isn't reliable,           The real trouble, or so it
      *nothing* is reliable.    seems to me, with a site
                                such as wikipedia is not    THE_ROVERS
                                lack of professional
    We don't need               involvement, but well
    guarantees that             funded attempts at
    everyone is a               subversion, of which we're
    good guy, we                going to see much more in
    need ways of of             the future.
    identifying the
    bad guys.
                                    After his talk in
    Addressing the                  the "Long Now"          [ref]
    speech and not the              series, Jimmy Wales
    speaker is a noble              was asked a very
    goal, but no one,               interesting, very
    *absolutely* no                 difficult question:
    one, actually works
    that way.
                                    What if the Chinese
                                    government changed
       SOURCES_CONSIDERED           tactics, and
                                    instead of trying
       TWO_LEVEL                    to block wikipedia,
                                    they chose to
                                    subvert it?


                                        He went off into
                                        an anecdote
                                        about dealing
                                        with a tiny
                                        group of 16
                                        neo-nazis.

                                        But how can that
                                        case compare with
                                        the resources of
                                        mainland China?

                                               And what if the
                                               US Government
                                               (or a faction
                                               of it) is
                                               engaged in
                                               subverting
                                               wikipedia?

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