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VINOGRAD

                                             June  5, 2009
On darkness and light,                       July 16, 2013
goth-punks vs hippies:
                                                      From material
  Julia Vinograd really is pretty                     posted to alt.gothic.
  great at working in the
  deceptively easy-looking field                      Originally part of
  of modern formless poetry.
                                                               DARK_COMMENT

                            If you think
                            there's nothing to
                            it, you might want
                            to compare some of    When everything's
                            hers to almost any    allowed, it gets
                            one else's efforts    harder to know what
                                                  to do, not easier...

                                                        UNINTENDED

  But that said, she does say some
  pretty dubious things now and then...

                                                    DARK_COMMENT
Aaron Cometbus quotes the Vinograd poem:

   AGAINST PUNK:
   It is better to light                                      METHOD_OF_LIGHT
   one candle
   than to praise the darkness

His take on this is:

   I thought, that's the problem with hippies.
   They can't live with themselves when the
   lights are out.  No wonder that they're so
   angry at us, able to accept the darkness and                   SUN_BLAST
   even celebrate it.


From another Julia Vinograd poem,
"The Goth Girls":                                       GOTHPUNK

   The goth girls live to be looked at
   and paint the night around their eyes in heavy kohl.
   But they peer thru that night
   like a child thru a keyhole,
   making no sense of what they see ...

                           From "Cannibal Carnival" (1996)
                           subtitled:
                           Poems 1986-1996


                                          Aaron Cometbus
                                          may have a point...



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