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May 18, 2020 /home/doom/Dust/Texts/BertrandRussell/bertrand_russell-the_philosophy_of_logical_atomism-djvu.txt Bertrand Russell's "Philsophy of Logical Atomism", from pieces published in "The Monist" in 1918. I'm starting with a text file One wonders if in 1918 version from the internet "The Monist" was still a archive, which these days are I also continue hotbed of "monism", unfortunately rather trashy-- my practice of which I would take to be they seem like uncorrected page introducing the opposite of scans, so I've got to do my own paragraph "atomism"-- the "monist" spelling checks and comparisons breaks at will. starts with the feeling to the pdfs. I may very well that everything is have introduced errors. One thing connected and can't be I know I've understood in isolation. I've also fallen asleep listening done is to librivox readings of these introduce pieces many times, which has no American doubt re-programmed my brain in spellings. I was willing to go weird ways, though I doubt that with "colour", but the reader will notice much I can't give "premiss" change in the weirdness quotient. a miss. Russell and Whitehead famously tried to ground all of Mathematics in logic, but here he's being more informal: "... I shall try to set forth in a sort of outline, rather briefly and rather unsatisfactorily, a kind of logical doctrine which seems to me to result from the philosophy of mathematics-- not exactly logically, but as what emerges as one reflects: a certain kind of logical doctrine, and on the basis of this a certain kind of metaphysic." "The logic which I shall advocate is I would've thought atomistic, as opposed to the monistic that "monism" logic of the people who more or less preceded Hegel, follow Hegel." but I gather that Russell originally came to it that way. "When I say that my logic is atomistic, I mean that I share the common-sense belief that there are many Not a shocking conclusion, but it separate things; I do not strikes me as a mild surprise regard the apparent coming from Mister Principia... multiplicity of the world All math is a reflection of basic logic, as consisting merely in but the world in general is not? phases and unreal divisions of a single (Russell is often willing to work indivisible Reality." with commonsense notions and colloquial language, but sometimes rejects them completely...) Russell connects this to "justifying the process of analysis", which would seem to require *some* way of breaking-down the world I might wonder whether it's into components. strictly necessary for these components to be "atomic". "One is often told that the process of analysis is You might identify components falsification, that when that can be studied and described you analyse any given without claiming they could not concrete whole you falsify be subdivided still further and it and that the results of understood more deeply (or at analysis are not true." least differently). Myself, I think you'd have Also, I don't think it would be to conceed that there's earth-shaking these days to always a risk that any regard schemes of sub-division analysis might conceal some as provisional ("models")-- aspects of a subject, even they're potentially useful, if it enables understanding though not necessarily the one in other ways. true way. "I do not mean to say, of course, and nobody would maintain, that when you have analysed you keep everything that you had before you analysed. If you did, you Which is to say that an analysis is a would never attain anything simplfication, which immediately in analysing." suggests that any analysis might be an over-simplification, and we should allow for the possibility of alternatives. "I do not propose to meet the views that I disagree with by controversy, I would guess Russell is here by arguing against those views, but taking issue with Hegel's rather by positively setting forth thesis/antithesis/synthesis cycle, what I believe to be the truth about but it's interesting that it might the matter ..." be taken as a rebuke of Popper's "falsification"... "... and endeavouring all the way through to make the views that I advocate result inevitably from absolutely undeniable data. When I This is the sort of thing I *like* talk of 'undeniable data' that is not about Bertrand Russell: he's aware of to be regarded as synonymous with how hard it is to find solid ground 'true data', because 'undeniable' is in these waters, and unlike many he a psychological term and 'true' is isn't going to just pretend he's got not. When I say that something is it all figured. 'undeniable', I mean that it is not the sort of thing that anybody is But even these "undeniable" going to deny; it does not follow starting points of Russell's from that that it is true, though it might have problems: It's does follow that we shall all think not hard to find examples of it true-- and that is as near to the "undeniable" that have truth as we seem able to get." turned out to be wrong. "When you are considering any Even a point that the audience sort of theory of knowledge, you isn't inclined to argue about are more or less tied to a might turn out to be the fatal certain unavoidable subjectivity, flaw of a theory. because you are not concerned simply with the question what is true of the world, but 'What can I know of the world?' You always have to start any kind of argument from something which appears to you to be true; ..." "... if it appears to you to be true, there is no more to be done. You cannot go outside yourself Here it seems like Russell my be and consider abstractly whether the overreaching-- It may very well things that appear to you to be true be *difficult* to "go outside are true; ..." yourself" but isn't it possible? "... you may do this in a particular And at first, it looked to case, where one of your beliefs is me like Russell was changed in consequence of others whaffling here, but I think among your beliefs." I see the point: yes, you can revise beliefs, say, in the light of new evidence, but that's always going to be done using *other* beliefs, if only the belief that you should pay attention to new evidence. "The reason that I call my doctrine logical atomism is because the atoms Well... duh? Am I missing that I wish to arrive at as the sort something here? of last residue in analysis are logical atoms and not physical atoms." I would've just said he's making an analogy. There's a scientific understanding of matter based on simpler sub-componets: chemists see the world as composed of around 100 different kinds of "atoms" and their properties. Similarly, you might hope to root a philosophy of everything in simpler intellectual sub-components. Calling them "logical atoms" would seem to be clear enough, though I suppose that might be begging a question or two (like, is "logic" really the key to understanding everything?). "Some of them will be what I call 'particulars'-- such things as little patches of colour or sounds, momentary things-- and some of them will be predicates or relations and so on. The point is that the atom I wish to arrive at is the atom of logical analysis, not the atom of physical analysis." "It is a rather curious fact in philosophy that the data which are undeniable to start with are always rather vague and ambiguous." And that's one for the quotable quotes file. "You can, for instance, say: 'There are a number of people in this room at this moment.' That is obviously in some sense undeniable. But when you come to try and define what this room is, and what it is for a person to be in a room, and how you are going to distinguish one person from another, and so forth, you find that what you have said is most fearfully vague and that you really do not know what you meant." This may be one of the worst examples in the history of philosophy, which If you want to start with is really saying something. "undeniables", the idea that we some severe trouble taking a headcount of a classroom would not seem to be a good place to begin. "That is a rather singular fact, that everything you are really sure of, right off is something that you do not And that could be another know the meaning of, and the moment you for the quotable quotes. get a precise statement you will not be sure whether it is true or false, at least right off." "The process of sound philosophizing, to my mind, consists mainly in passing from those obvious, vague, ambiguous things, that we feel quite sure of, to something precise, clear, definite, which by reflection and analysis we find is involved in the vague thing that we start from, and is, so to speak, the real truth There it is, the return of of which that vague thing is a sort of the shadow. shadow." And who know what evil lurks in these shadows? *This* is it, the rub, the nub, the central tenet of what we might call Russellism, the attitude underlying people's They start with propositions-- approaches to the fundamentals by definition, unsupported-- of mathematics. work through consequences of the propositions, and then *judge* the propositions by whether they like the consequences, then go back and tweak the propositions to try to get a better set of "fundamentals" that better cover the ground-- Isn't it clear that these fundamentals aren't? There's something else, some other prior beliefs, or they wouldn't be able to judge how well a given set of propositions works. And often they work on *reducing* the number of the propositions-- if one can be derived from some of the others, that in itself is regarded as big news, a remarkable advance-- though it would not seem that they understand anything more after this advance. The propositions are used to derive the same things they always were, there's just one less of them. "I should like, if time were longer and if I knew more than I do, to spend a whole lecture on the conception of Some of us have more of vagueness." a talent for vagueness... "I think vagueness is very much more important in the theory of knowledge than you would judge it Like I was saying about to be from the writings of most "quotable quotes". people. Everything is vague to a degree you do not realize till you have tried to make it precise, and everything precise is so remote from everything that we normally think, that you cannot for a moment suppose that is what we really mean when we say what we think." "... you cannot very easily or simply get from these vague undeniable things to precise things which are going to retain the undeniability of the starting-point." "The precise propositions that you arrive at may be logically premises to the system that you build up upon the basis of them, but they are not premises for the theory of knowledge." -------- [NEXT - GENERAL_RUSSELL]