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CULTURAL_APPROPRIATION


                                                          May 3, 2018

https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/8g8fhd/cmv_in_most_cases_cultural_appropriation_is_a/

In a recent discussion on reddit of the rather
dubious concept of "cultural appropriation",           CHEONGSAM_RED
someone brought up a case I hadn't heard of before.

The story goes: a white girl decided
to wear a traditional Chinese dress           Whether this is a *true*
(a cheongsam) to the prom, and found          story, related accurately,
herself under attack for "cultural            I don't really know.
appropriation".
                                              I've heard various details,
This is the what I hear in this story:        none of which I would trust,
                                              but you can play them through
A young woman tries to think creatively       your mind if you like and
and come up with something to wear to the     see how they change your
prom outside of the usual, standard           impressions:
dresses: so rather than follow the
western tradition, she goes with a               o  the dress was purchased
traditional dress from another culture.             used at a thrift store
Some, incensed at her attempt at being
different, reach for any popular excuse          o  cheongsam are worn
to declare that this is *bad* and comes             at formal events, and
up with "cultural appropriation".  Her              wearing one to a prom is
reward for her attempt at creativity is             appropriate.
that joy of the modern era, an internet
brigade pack attack.  After which the            o  the cheongsam was not
brigade no doubt declared victory, but              originally Han, but
the benefit gained escapes me.                      adopted from the Manchu;
                                                    the tight waistline is
                                                    a western influence.

                                                 o  the complaint was issued
                                                    later on the net by one
                                                    person.

                                                 o  the person (or persons)
                                                    who complained identify
                                                    as Chinese.

                                                 o  many people who identify
                                                    as Chinese don't see any
                                                    problem


                                               You can imagine different
                                               variations:

                                                 o  the young woman has a
                                                    deep interest in Chinese
                                                    culture.




If you step up as a defender of a culture,
criticizing outsiders who try to get               If not, you're open to a
involved with it, you'd better qualify as          charge of hypocrisy,
a member of that culture yourself.                 "appropriating" a culture
                                                   so you can play white
  If you're trying to make a move like "No         knight, defending it from
  one but a Real Chinese person has the            appropriation.
  right to wear that!", it looks pretty
  silly if you have trouble finding Chinese
  people who agree with you.

  The next question would be whether even
  someone who is clearly a member of a culture      You'd need something like
  has the right to act as a gate-keeper and         surveys of the group to see
  declare who is allowed to get involved with       if a particular individual
  it. Who gets to stand in judgment over whether    is anything like
  someone is doing a culture right?                 representative of that
                                                    group.  These are not
  Consider the case of a group of Americans who     typically elected positions.
  decides they are True Americans and start
  trying to dictate how other people should
  behave in order to show respect to America.

     Actually no one objects to anyone wearing
     Western dress no matter what their ethnic
     background might be-- that's just regarded
     as Normal, the default behavior everyone
     is expected to conform to.



           If you want to tell me that, for example rich
           kids dressing like skater thrashers is dorky,
           stupid, tasteless, annoying, etc, you are
           unlikely to get much argument from me.

           The problem is when someone tries to call it a
           great crime, and howls in indignation, and
           declares it's obviously a sign of classicism,
           or what not.




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