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                                           November 30, 2025

On the David Bowie project with Brian Eno, "The Outside"


https://www.reddit.com/r/eno/comments/1oycs5e/1outside_and_eno/np402mk/


When I first listened to "Outside" I didn't
like it very much-- I was a college radio DJ
at the time (over at KZSU, the Stanford
station) and none of us cool music snobs
seemed to think very much of it. It wasn't
advancing the state-of-the-art, but it wasn't
going for any kind of retro-cool...

In retrospect, listening to it again later, I
didn't really hear anything to complain about
though-- I think something about it seemed out-of-
touch with the tenor of the times (like Bowie's
late-80s projects, perhaps), but there's
nothing wrong with it really, and I like
listening to it these days. If you're a member
of a different musical tribe, you might've
gotten there ahead of me.

On the Eno tip, if you read Eno's book, "1995:
A Year With Swollen Appendices", you'll see
that Eno gave the band a set of fictional
characters described in detail, and they were
all supposed to try to play-in-character as
they performed. It's a really interesting experiment--
something like Bowie's 1970s approach to music,
but maybe expanded to include the entire band--
but myself I had trouble hearing it listening
to the music, something about it seemed over-
blown, not quite functional...


After looking at this video where Bowie talks
about creating "Outside", I could not feel more
puzzled about the project:

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2NaRwMvIUk


Bowie talks about how he and Eno wanted to create
a document of what was going on around the end of
the millenium; they were going to do this by
working with a fictional scenario with a half
dozen different characters; and Bowie remarks that     As an aside: Bowie
his own existing body or work is now so extensive      remarks that one of
that he can do a lot just working with it without      his standard ways
going "Outside"--                                      of working through
                                                       problems with his
   Yeah, he uses the word "Outside".                   musical work is to
   The album under discussion is named "Outside".      switch to doing a
                                                       painting--
   Bowie isn't the kind of person who would miss
   that, but damned if I know what it means.               That's an exciting
                                                           bit of news-- could
                                                           we see an exhibition
      First of all: is Bowie saying his own                of David Bowie
      work is representative of the end of the             originals some day?
      millenium, so he can look inward to get              But they show us one
      to the "Outside"?                                    of his paintings in
                                                           progress, and it
          That seems unlikely, and weirdly egocentric,     looks pretty weak--
          but on the other hand Bowie's work has a
          stronger claim in that direction than most.

       And isn't there a touch of irony about my
       perception that this release-- supposedly     Bowie comments that he
       representative of the end of the millenium    and Eno carefully
       was out-of-touch with the times?              selected musicians
                                                     they've worked with
                                                     before who they though
   But okay, so what is this story about?            would be able to handle
   It's supposed to be rough and inconclusive        they're style of
   ("like life"), but still you ought to be          experimentation, i.e.
   able to get *something* about it from             goofing around on spec
   listening to the lyrics... not to mention         to see where it goes.
   the ancilliary sources, the various public
   remarks about what it's supposed to be                Perhaps that resulted
   about.                                                in that feeling that
                                                         there was nothing
       There's the private detective dude.               really new here--
       Things are happening in a place called            a look into the
       Oxford Town in New Jersey (or "Joisey").          past rather than an
       I'm seen remarks that there's something           examination of the
       going on about art crimes, e.g. people            latest things...
       committing murders to make art with the
       bodies?  There's a music video about
       people making a Minotaur out of castings
       of human bodies and a bull's head.            He remarks that the
       Bowie remarks that the Minotaur is            live show based on this
       this story's version of The Beast             is going to include
       (aka Moloch?).                                several older works he
                                                     thinks fit in well with
           And this all adds up to what,             the material:
           exactly?  What, for example is
           the Private Detective investigating?          Man Who Sold the World
           Something about those Art Crimes?             Andy Warhol
           Who hired him?

               Yes: it turns out the story
               underlying the sketchy lyrics
               is in the CD case, albeit in     The detective is investigating
               the usual microprint.            the ritual murder of a teenage
                                                girl-- which is Bowie
                                                extrapolating from *and
                                                completely misunderstanding*
                                                the Modern Primitives scene of
     Bowie comments that he                     the late-80s and early 90s.
     feels like playing a half
     dozen characters gives                           A murderer mutilating
     him some distance from the                       a body is profoundly
     material, but here it creates                    uninteresting compared
     so many levels of indirection                    to someone choosing to
     I can't get through it--                         modify their own body.

     A simple point: who is the viewpoint
     character in the song "Hallo Spaceboy"?
     Some lower-class British woman?
     Perhaps Ramona A. Stone?
     Wikipedia says "Paddy" (who?).




                         Toll the Bell
                         Pay the Private Eye
                         All's well
                         20th Century dies


     It's happening now.
     The music is outside.             I was an artiste
     It's happening outside.           In a tunnel
                                       But I've been having a midi-life crisis
                                       And I've been dreaming in a sleep
                                       And ape men with metal parts








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