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                                             February 18, 2025

Some items I posted (mostly in discussions
at the eschatonblog) throughout April and        Reading through these now
May of 2024:                                     is interesting, they differ
                                                 in tone and occasionally
                                                 content from things I would
                                                 say now-- these were
                                                 remarks made back in the
                                                 moment, back when I still
                                                 held out hope that we might
                                                 turn this around before
                                                 Gaza was destroyed...


   I find I am having trouble preserving my
   sardonic ironic distance on this one.

   You want to talk about redlines, "genocide"
   is supposed to be one of them.

   The not-as-bad-as-those-other-guys party is
   engaging in one of the worst crimes against
   civilization possible.

   Forget about anything like preserving the moral
   stature of the United States or the Democratic
   Party or anything like that.


                                         Trump bad, but genocide bad.
                                         Genocide or Trump == false dilmemma.

                                         You can't engage in genocide and just
                                         walk away from it going "oh well,
                                         sucks to be them, but we need the
                                         votes"-- this one is going to follow
                                         us, for a very long time.






           The competing model is that the bad guys have been in
           control the entire time, though they occasionally let
           in some "leaders" who wave the Brand D flag.

           Stop me if you've heard this one, but I think the
           underlying common denominator is Oil.


                    I remark somewhere every few days that
                    Israel's foreign policy did not suddenly
                    go sour because Netanyahu is in power, and
                    the idea that replacing Netanyahu will
                    suddenly fix everything is shall we say,
                    unlikely.


   I thought this interview with Hala Rharrit--
   the US diplomat that resigned over Gaza
   around the beginning of May-- was pretty          HALA_RHARRIT
   interesting:

      https://www.democracynow.org/2024/5/3/state_dept

   If you were actually interested
   in this issue, you'd think this
   is one of the voices you'd like
   to hear from.

   If you do a search on that URL over
   at reddit, you will note there are
   no hits in the big discussion groups           Jeffrey Fisher: "All very
   like /r/politics or /r/world. If it            reminiscent of the West Bank,
   was posted there it was buried                 which is sliced and diced into
   somehow to reduce it's visibility.             bits separated by Israeli
                                                  barriers of various types."
   We like to talk about problems with
   The Media here: this would seem to be a        A lot of Israel is like
   glaring problem with the New Media,            that. Bethlehem is a walled
   there's this popular site that offers          prision next door to Jeruselum.
   itself as "the front page of the
   internet", but certain things are not
   "fit" for that front page.


                     The political wisdom that the Jewish Vote matters
                     but the Arab-American vote doesn't eludes me. I
                     would rather try to convince American Jews that
                     Israel has gone too far, than to try to convince
                     Arab-Americans that a little genocide is no big
                     deal.

                     (And this seems to be a tough one for a lot of
                     people here to get, but there are moral crimes
                     that aren't really justifiable by "but we need
                     the votes".)



  Calling the position "pro-Palestinian" seems
  okay to us, which is why it's convenient for them
  to use the label, but there's a dog-whistle there
  you'll get if you think about it. For many people
  "Palestinian = terrorist", and a pro-Palestinian is
  an obvious nutjob you don't need to think about.

        It's important to call
        them pro-Palestine
        protestors, and not
        anti-genocide protestors.



      NYT headline: "Biden Says the
      U.S. Will Not Supply Israel
      With Weapons to Attack Rafah"
      Because we already have?


                                       This is different:

                                       https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/07/us-concerns-over-israels-gaza-policy-led-to-weapons-holdup-00156528

                                       "The Biden administration is holding up
                                       shipments of two types of Boeing-made
                                       precision bombs to send a political
                                       message to Israel, according to a
                                       U.S. official and six other people with
                                       knowledge of the deliberations."

                                       Too little, too late of course, but at
                                       this point I wasn't expecting anything



            https://thehill.com/opinion/4661959-rafah-is-bidens-red-line-moment-dont-botch-it/

            "The Biden administration recently paused a shipment of weapons
            to Israel over concerns that the country was considering a
            full-scale attack on Rafah, where over a million people are
            sheltering. And he threatened to suspend arms shipments if
            Israel went through such an attack."

            "Those are positive developments. But according to
            U.S. officials, in the days following the pause, the Biden
            administration has continued to send offensive and defensive
            weapons to Israel. And today, Israel is ratcheting up its
            attacks against Rafah."

            "The president must enforce his own policy and suspend weapons
            deliveries to Israel. Failure to do so would only embolden
            Israeli President Benjamin Netanyahu to ignore U.S. warnings and
            move forward against Rafah with disastrous consequences for the
            people of Gaza and the region."


  So Biden is treading carefully, and it's all
  eleventy-dimensional and all, but once again:
  if Gaza were a nice-white European suburb
  this would all play very differently, which
  is where we come back to racism ("or anything
  like that").

  "Rafah didn't happen right away" It's been
  abundantly obvious for quite some time that
  this is a genocide in progress. If you've
  missed them, I can give you links to reports
  from the UN and Amnesty International.

  Hala Rharrit, a state department diplomat who
  resigned over the handling of Gaza recently,       HALA_RHARRIT
  is of the opinion that this is all about
  keeping the money flowing to military
  contractors.



         Romeny: "An offer is on the table to have a ceasefire,
         and yet the world is screaming about Israel. It’s
         like, why are they not screaming about Hamas?"

         My answer would be that

           (a) Hamas killed a relatively small number of
               people, arguably in retaliation to Gaza being
               placed under blockade for a decade

           (b) The United States supports the Israeli
               military with money and weapons, which makes
               us responsible for what they do

           (c) Hamas' actions in no way rise to the level
               of "genocide", but Israel's do.

         Note: all three points here are independent of each
               other. Point (a) could be an unfair
               representation of events and the other points
               would still apply.

         If anyone wanted to object to the term "genocide" I can
         supply links to the UN and Amnesty International.
         There's no reason that should be controversial.




                I think a lot of people regard genocide as wrong,
                but are unconsciously inclined to minimize it's
                significance when it's happening to brown skinned
                people in foreign lands, and find themselves
                making up scenarios about "political realities" to
                avoid having to do anything about it.




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