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                                              March  9-10, 2013


Mother Jones-- which has become increasingly interested
in info-graphics of late-- has a snazzy looking page of
full of "gun myth" debunking:

   http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gun-myths-fact-check

I want to look at just one:

    "Myth #2: Guns don't kill people-- people kill people."

    "Fact-check: People with more guns tend to kill more
    people—with guns. The states with the highest gun
    ownership rates have a gun murder rate 114% higher
    than those with the lowest gun ownership rates. Also,
    gun death rates tend to be higher in states with
    higher rates of gun ownership."

 They document this correlation well, with a
 graph titled "ownership vs gun death", with
 sources cited:

    Pediatrics:
      http://www.pediatricsdigest.mobi/content/116/3/e370.full

    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
      http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparemaptable.jsp?ind=113&cat=2

 This is an interesting correlation, but a
 pro-gun person would object that causation     It also appears to
 is not established.                            contradict an older
                                                analysis I've seen:
 The notion that having guns
 around makes it more likely                              CRAZYIDEAS
 they'll be used wrong than
 right certainly seems
 plausible to me, but it's at       The reason I find it plausible is
 least possible that the            that I think that opportunities to
 correlation runs the other         use a gun for self-defense purposes
 way: if you lived in a place       are rare compared to opportunities
 where there was a lot of gun       to use them inappropriately by
 violence, you might feel the       accident, or though confusion, or
 need to own a gun for              in crimes of passion, or with
 self-defense.                      criminal intent.

 "Data-driven" arguments                 To use a gun in self-defense
 are often like this: the                requires a confluence of two
 application of the data                 rare things: gun ownership and
 depends a lot on the                    a violent attack.
 pre-existing picture you
 have in your head of                        That said: this is just a
 what's going on.                            theoretical case without
                                             much data to support it.

                                             (The pro-gun faction often
                                             point at some survey where
                                             many people reported using a
                                             gun in self-defense, but
                                             there's a counter-claim
                                             that the examples of
                                             "self-defense" look bogus
                                             on closer examination.)

             Consider this possibility:

             What if this apparent correlation
             is an artifact of the social status
             of guns?  If the intelligent and
             well-educated turn up their nose
             at the gun hobby for social reasons,
             then as a by-product the "gun nuts"
             will be the yahoos out in the sticks,
             the people least likely to learn
             to use guns responsibly.

             If you turned around this trend,
             if you could create a gun fad in        An alternate scenario:
             the more populous, more "civilized"     what if there was a
             states, you might find this             government edict
             correlation would fall apart.           requiring that all
                                                     households be armed?

                                                        It's a common
                                                        pro-gun argument
                                                        to point at
                                                        Switzerland,
                                                        where all households
                                                        are required to
                                                        stock fully
                                                        automatic weapons.

                                                        The MoJo article
                                                        uses US states to
                                                        get it's correlation.
                                                        Can you incorporate
                                                        the experience of
                                                        other countries?

  There's an additional remark tacked on
  to this "Myth #2" that I find very
  interesting:

    "Gun death rates are generally lower in states
    with restrictions such as assault-weapons bans
    or safe-storage requirements."


  The first part of their "Myth #2"
  is supported by data, this trailing
  remark is actually unreferenced.

  Placed where it is, you get the feeling that
  it's supported by the given references, but
  it actually isn't-- if there are studies out
  there to support this claim, they haven't
  pointed us at them.

  The way they phrase it made me wonder if the
  existing data left them with no way to tease        DATA_GUN
  apart the effects of assault-weapons band and
  safe-storage requirements.

                     My guess: storage
                     requirements sound
                     effective, but
                     assault weapons bans
                     are meaningless...

                     Or *probably* meaningless:

                         ASSAULT_ON_WEAPONS




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